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by odysseus
Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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I went to Rorty to try and figure out why he believed that knowing objects as independent perceptual systems was impossible. As far as I can tell it is because we constantly make mistakes in our judgments of what is and isn't the case. If that's his argument then he has once again taken up the same...
by odysseus
Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:31 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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No, I do not think like Kant. Kant is a conceptualist (a nominalist) and I am a realist. Concepts are “in the mind”, while the Forms of a realist are external to the mind. Now to the importance of Value. Yes, Value is valuable. But, I maintain, that Value, also, is a real thing external to the mind...
by odysseus
Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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Then you think like Kant does, or you should have an appreciation for his examination of human rationality. The part about the forms being separate from the humans that exemplify them is, I believe, problematic. Plato's are the theoretical basis for Kant's synthetic function of concepts, and his aes...
by odysseus
Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:03 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
Replies: 66
Views: 3344

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Well, that was interesting. You should NOT come to Kathmandu. You would hate it. It is crowded, chaotic, noisy, a total head-banging disorientation. I love it. But then I grew up on the American prairie, where there is plenty of quiet and wide open spaces. i suppose we both crave the opposite of wh...
by odysseus
Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:01 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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You live in Nepal, and I find that fascinating. You know, I lived in your neighborhood, in Kodaikanal, Tamil Nadu, India (close to you geographically, well, south, not so close really) for 3 years. Rajasthan is not far from you. There is, near the Pakistani border outside of Jaisalmer (sp?), a place...
by odysseus
Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:47 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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"I think the reduction leads to what the Hindus and Buddhists have been telling us for a very long time ..." I think you are referring to Western Secular ideas about Hinduism and Buddhism, which really has absolutely nothing at all to do with village religion here, which is what I study. You have a...
by odysseus
Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:44 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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The quick history of the Epoche. Let’s begin with Aristotle. He had what is called the hylomorphic view of things. Everything is a subject with properties. Those properties or Forms (morphe) inhere in the subject or hyle (matter). Moving along to Descartes, that subject became the Self. the I, and ...
by odysseus
Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:14 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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What I just said about language reducing the world to a manageable form because the world is too tragic and too beautiful to be apprehended otherwise; this is actually worth repeating. When we open ourselves more earnestly to the horrors and and beauty of the world, via the epoche, the world stops b...
by odysseus
Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:01 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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You are preaching to me about the epoche. I think what you are saying is that I have not set aside all my preconceived ideas, biases, prejudices, personal proclivities, natural tendencies, horny desires, childhood indoctrination, and self-centered navel gazing. That I haven’t gone to the thing, the...
by odysseus
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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tapaticmadness We do seem to have a different understanding of what is going on with the Beat Poets and those others you mentioned. You say that they can have depth and wonder. You seem to want to make them examples of expressionistic art, full of feeling and somehow a description of the artist’s l...
by odysseus
Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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tapaticmadness In the arduous schools of the Middle Ages, everyone invokes Aristotle, master of human reason; but the nominalists are Aristotle, the realists, Plato. George Henry Lewes has opined that the only medieval debate of some philosophical value is between nominalism and realism; the opinio...
by odysseus
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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There is the pressing question of just where philosophy is located. Is it “out there” in the Wild of Reality or is it in the published words of certain now-famous philosophers. I always remember the fight between the Arminius and Calvin. Arminius, the hero of today’s charismatic religionists, taugh...
by odysseus
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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But don't judge a philosopher by her cover. It's a job, but underneath there can be extraordinary things going on. A Buddhist sits, but sitting is not the Buddhist. Your comments about art are interesting because they open an issue: when a philosopher of substance, a mystic, by my lights, someone wh...
by odysseus
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:25 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
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I have no issues with, well, such abundance as your website presents. And pushing matters to extremes in art and other indulgences neither offend nor compel. I only try to be clear about the most extraordinary thing there is about being human, which is metaethics, metavalue, which is the philosophic...
by odysseus
Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:31 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: reading Husserl, Fink....
Replies: 66
Views: 3344

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I'll grant you, William Burroughs had scrambled visions of reality. But the way to go about this is not with the things that are descriptive of you. My philosophical obsession with the world, with our Being here, is ethical , and it encompasses all wretchedness . The pinnacle of philosophical awaren...