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by Atla
Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:08 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

Perhaps that's because the counter example is so all pervasive and obvious that it's taken for granted? As far as we know reality is dual, its domains ruled by different laws - one by GR and the other by QM. If the great physical theories of our time can be brought together as a single TOE then, an...
by Atla
Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:32 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

Atla, I have never heard of other than monism and dualism. I have no idea of what "nondualism" might be or how many ontological substances are involved in nondualism. I am wondering if you know that mind is an ontological substance. There are no ontological substances in nondualism. What makes you ...
by Atla
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:52 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

Then your ontological stance is that of a monist not a dualist. You also seem to be an idealist(immaterialist) variety of monist. Are you? If you are an idealist sort of monist, how do you escape from solipsism? No, I don't think that monism is quite the same as nondualism. Umm how do I put it. The...
by Atla
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:46 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

Atla, at the risk of restarting the argument you've just had with Londoner, please can you list some advantages of your stance over a dualist stance? You seem to have an intense aversion to the term "dualist" and I don't really understand why. What do you find unappealing about dualism? So far all ...
by Atla
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:39 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

It does indeed matter whether an observer is alive or not, and you yourself hinted at the reason why by acknowledging that a human will eventually have to observe the machine. That's totally not what I said. I meant that we enter the deep mistery about observation there, and that most humans probab...
by Atla
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

I suggest that a person’s mind is a “closed dimension” of subjective reality that can be likened to an inaccessible “parallel universe” that consists of a singular and unique personal consciousness (an “I am-ness”) that metaphorically sits at the center of a galaxy of thoughts, memories, and dreams...
by Atla
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:06 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: I think therefore I am... where exactly?
Replies: 24
Views: 3997

Re: I think therefore I am... where exactly?

Yes, Atla, there is a circular reasoning here, but it's not "cogito ergo sum", but your obsession with circular reasoning. You insist there is circular reasoning from the outset, and by George you come up with the conclusion that there is circular reasoning in "CES". Therefore the only circular rea...
by Atla
Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:46 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: I think therefore I am... where exactly?
Replies: 24
Views: 3997

Re: I think therefore I am... where exactly?

There are no assumptions I made. My thought is an experience. It is not an assumption in the abstract world; it is a real experience. Therefore if thought exists, which is a dependent thing on something else, a thinker, a thinker must exist. And a thought exists. Therefore the thinker exists. Who i...
by Atla
Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:57 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

To me, the words “observer” and “consciousness” are synonymous nouns (with both words representing attributes of something that is alive). However, when it comes to the explication of phenomenal reality from the waves (fields) of quantum information, the word “observer” seems limited (semantically)...
by Atla
Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:55 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

Correct me if I am wrong, but I assume you are speaking of quantum theory. In which case, when it comes to an external reality existing independent of us, the only thing that physics seems to refute is the idea that the propagating wavefunction could acquire the attribute of “position” in the absen...
by Atla
Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:34 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: I think therefore I am... where exactly?
Replies: 24
Views: 3997

Re: I think therefore I am... where exactly?

An assumption is not needed. That is the only weak or incorrect part of your argument, and it is fatal to your argument. "I think" is an experience by the self. Who thinks? I. Therefore I above any doubt exist. Others' thought I can't experience. Others can't experience my thought. I am the only on...
by Atla
Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

I do not understand why you can never get this! When we look at a tree, we see the tree whether we want to or not. It is always there, there are a set of regular sensory characteristics that go with it. This suggests that something about the tree is independent of our will, that the tree does not e...
by Atla
Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:02 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

You keep making the argument that dualism is needed because: experiencing something from the inside and viewing it from the outside as a representation of material structure isn't the same. That's the same as saying that when we look at a tree, we should automatically feel what it's like to be that ...
by Atla
Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:29 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

I cannot see that you have written anything about that; if you have I cannot tell what you think. That's the problem. Remember, you consider rocks have consciousness. Thinking about a rock, in what sense does a rock 'experience'? Does it have sensory organs? Why do you think a rock has a 'rich inne...
by Atla
Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:25 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 51280

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

Fine I'll answer some more.. You do understand that 'the hard problem' is a specific question about the way we (humans) experience, usually associated with the philosopher Chalmers? How humans experience the way they do are the SOFT problems of consciousness. This topic is about the HARD problem of ...