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by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:07 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Rationalism v. empiricism
Replies: 92
Views: 1446

Re: Rationalism v. empiricism

You are really talking about the very many different theories of mathematical "logic", without of course making clear what you mean because you' don't know what you are talking about. Lack of clarity is your incompetence - not mine. You are the one who claims that there is only "one logic". So it f...
by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Rationalism v. empiricism
Replies: 92
Views: 1446

Re: Rationalism v. empiricism

There is just one logic Then why do the Constructivists disagree with Aristotle? Mathematical logic. Personally I don't care and i think nobody should. It's essentially a waste of time. Mathematicians have a nice little job and they are busy producing and cloning ever more zany theories that have n...
by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Rationalism v. empiricism
Replies: 92
Views: 1446

Re: Rationalism v. empiricism

The fact that you conceptualise them as "immaterial" is just language playing tricks on you. You don't have to conceptualise pain to know you are in pain. What we conceptualise is the material world. We have the concept of a tree and think of it as material. We don't experience the tree itself. We ...
by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Rationalism v. empiricism
Replies: 92
Views: 1446

Re: Rationalism v. empiricism

Without relating to some THING, ideas do not survive without hard relevance. Yes, ideas (thoughts) do not survive (live through) unless they relate to some material thing. They only exist until the instant that they no longer survive. Thoughts that do not correlate to some material thing only exist...
by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Rationalism v. empiricism
Replies: 92
Views: 1446

Re: Rationalism v. empiricism

I don't follow links. If you can't explain your point yourself, so be it. You don't read. You don't elucidate. What do you even shit? I always discuss what people say when they produce arguments. You don't. You just produce irrelevant assertions, misrepresentation of what people say, and falsehoods...
by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Rationalism v. empiricism
Replies: 92
Views: 1446

Re: Rationalism v. empiricism

There is just one logic understood as objective performance and manifest capability of human beings, which is the usual way most people understand what logic is. I just took a shit. It's objective. I performed it. I am human. Is that what you mean by "logic" ? Irrelevant to what you pretend to repl...
by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:44 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Rationalism v. empiricism
Replies: 92
Views: 1446

Re: Rationalism v. empiricism

I’m just saying that materialism and rationalism are more different than in degree only. They are certainly different in kind. Just read a little bit of Wikipedia’s discussion on rationalism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalism I don't follow links. If you can't explain your point yourself,...
by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Rationalism v. empiricism
Replies: 92
Views: 1446

Re: Rationalism v. empiricism

[The definition of rational (in accordance with logic) is incoherent. Which logic? There are so many to choose from! There is just one logic understood as objective performance and manifest capability of human beings, which is the usual way most people understand what logic is. You are really talki...
by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Rationalism v. empiricism
Replies: 92
Views: 1446

Re: Rationalism v. empiricism

But wait—rationalistic proof requires no observation, save only the recognition that the connection between given thoughts is non-contradictory. Rationalism is not observable unless thought is observable. And rationalism has no requirement to be derived from nor applicable to the material. Rational...
by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:30 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 360
Views: 5440

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

I asked you just to do it once. No. You asked me to read it "again" after I read it once. That's asking me to read it twice. Third time lucky, maybe? No. You don't understand English. I asked you once to read again. I didn't asked you over and over. You are systematically misrepresenting the facts ...
by Speakpigeon
Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Why still no science of logic?
Replies: 43
Views: 1215

Re: Why still no science of logic?

You haven't identified a problem. You have just tangled yourself up in a linguistic mess that doesn't leat do anything that can be subjected to scientific enquiry. I asked a simple question . And one you still haven't understood at all. Also, nobody cares that you should claim that my idea implicit...
by Speakpigeon
Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:07 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Why still no science of logic?
Replies: 43
Views: 1215

Re: Why still no science of logic?

You haven't identified a problem. You have just tangled yourself up in a linguistic mess that doesn't leat do anything that can be subjected to scientific enquiry. I asked a simple question . And one you still haven't understood at all. Also, nobody cares that you should claim that my idea implicit...
by Speakpigeon
Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 360
Views: 5440

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

A person is definitely not just the mind of this person. Did I say that? No? Then why strawman me? Did I say that? No? Then why strawman me? So, read again. You want me to do the same thing over and over in hope for a different outcome? Not over and over . I asked you just to do it once. You're jus...
by Speakpigeon
Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Your brain tricks you into believing... What?!
Replies: 3
Views: 163

Your brain tricks you into believing... What?!

One example, and perhaps the most convincing example, of psychologists, including neuroscientists, actually concluding from their research that a standard mental event is best understood as, literally, an illusion that people have is the frequent scientific conclusion that our belief that we have fr...
by Speakpigeon
Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 360
Views: 5440

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

Skepdick wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:41 am
you can't determine whether you need air, food and shelter.
Wrong assumption.
I all rather obviously depends on what I called "people". A person is definitely not just the mind of this person. So, read again.
Skepdick wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:41 am
Which necessitates a distinction between needs and wants.
Irrelevant to my point.
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