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Now, you are relying on this fallacious idea of mind-independence to insist there are no objective moral facts because moral elements cannot be mind-independent. Nope. Given that there's no evidence for 'mind' independent from 'body', the expressions 'mind-dependence' and 'mind-independence' are in...

IC's team's 'loving' god.

'You are completely free to believe in and love me or not. But if you don't, you will suffer either annihilation (the loss of eternal life), or eternal torture in hell, after you die.'

And IC claims this malicious demon is the source of objective morality.

Spot the fallacy.

Each human being constructs its own reality as it grows.
Therefore, there is no reality independent from human beings.

'which is subject interacted' is confusing. What I meant is things and reality emerged and are realized spontaneously grounded on a 13.5 billion years of physical history and 4.5 billion years of organic history. I believe this is that '500-pound-gorilla in the room' to you. If, as you agree, a thi...

I agree, our perception, knowledge and description of a thing doesn't bring it into existence like say an apple or table out there. Perceiving, Knowing & Describing a Thing Does not bring it into Existence https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?t=40715 BUT But before any real thing is pe...

All the evidence we have indicates that the universe existed before humans evolved - and, therefore, independent from humans - and there's no evidence that it didn't - that it began to exist when humans evolved - or that it wouldn't have existed had humans not evolved. The moronic stupidity of the i...

Whatever the description of a thing will not change the that thing that is described. However, whatever is believed [FSK-ed] to be is correlated with its being at the present and the future. Sic. 'Whatever is believed to be is correlated with its being'. This is gibberish. But perhaps the penny is ...

In this article [ Self, Philosophical Consideration ], it is stated Rorty asserted, the claim of an unchanging metaphysical substance such as the Self is driven by linguistic practices , i.e. language. Similar to Foucault, Richard Rorty argues that there is no unchanging metaphysical substance such...

Here's a popular fallacy. Premise: Identities or categories - and so sameness and difference - are linguistic things. Conclusion: Therefore, in reality - outside language - there are no identities or categories, and therefore no sameness and difference. This non sequitur comes from mistaking what w...

Whatever the description of a thing will not change the that thing that is described. However, whatever is believed [FSK-ed] to be is correlated with its being at the present and the future. Sic. 'Whatever is believed to be is correlated with its being'. This is gibberish. But perhaps the penny is ...

Just an aside. IC wrote this: 'Our beliefs do not alter the existence or non-existence of anything...a salutary reminder not merely for the religious, but for the Atheists [sic], to be sure.' Agreed. Things were and are the way they were and are, whatever anyone believes and says about them. Objecti...

Here's a popular fallacy. Premise: Identities or categories - and so sameness and difference - are linguistic things. Conclusion: Therefore, in reality - outside language - there are no identities or categories, and therefore no sameness and difference. This non sequitur comes from mistaking what we...

It is obvious the perceiving, the knowing and the description [all subject-dependent] do not bring THE-PERCEIVED, THE KNOWN and THE DESCRIBED into reality and existence as real. Ah! Yes, this is obvious: perceiving, knowing and describing don't bring things into existence. So first they exist - and...

The existence of gut bacteria then or now must always be qualified to the human-based science-biology FSK, thus, cannot be absolutely mind-independent. No, this is patently false. The EXISTENCE of gut bacteria - or any other feature of reality - has NOTHING to do with knowledge or description, huma...

I would rather not use the term at all; talking about God is not really what I wanted to do, but you make avoiding him impossible. :( This forum needs a God free zone. I'm sure some topics may allow that. Morality will never be one of them, of course. Because the existence or non-existence of God c...