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by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:21 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What Does "Objective" Mean With Respect to Morality?
Replies: 80
Views: 1083

Re: What Does "Objective" Mean With Respect to Morality?

People have and express opinions, such as 'abortion is morally wrong' and 'abortion is not morally wrong'. Those opinions exist and have consequences. Der.
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:18 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4771
Views: 257870

Re: What could make morality objective?

People who want to live want to breathe; therefore those people ought to breathe. People who don't want to live don't want to breathe; therefore those people ought not to breathe. Conclusion. The criterion for oughtness is what people want. So if people want to kill other people, they ought to do so...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:10 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: is/ought, final answer
Replies: 304
Views: 3094

Re: is/ought, final answer

VA - a question. Here's your argument: P1 IS = Reality, being, all-there-is. P2 All-there-is comprises oughtness, thus moral 'ought_ness' [justified empirically]. C1 Thus a moral 'ought' is "is" C2 Therefore a moral-ought is derivable from "is'. Did you mean this to be an example of recursion - of '...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:56 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4771
Views: 257870

Re: What could make morality objective?

We have to breathe or we'll die; therefore we ought to breathe. After all, humans ought to live. Not a matter of opinion.
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:53 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 1414
Views: 50447

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

So, killing people both is and is not morally wrong. So much for moral objectivity - the existence of moral facts.
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:09 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: is/ought, final answer
Replies: 304
Views: 3094

Re: is/ought, final answer

..... Can I take it from your evasion that you don't know which sort of statement that P2 was either? Nope! I am very determined to settle the point. That is why I am reading Rorty per your challenge and to throw back his views [if any] to counter your views. If I missed your point, its your miscom...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:51 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What Does "Objective" Mean With Respect to Morality?
Replies: 80
Views: 1083

Re: What Does "Objective" Mean With Respect to Morality?

The notions of "sameness" and "difference" are normative/prescriptive... You tell me. Even if they were normative or prescriptive that wouldn't have anything to do with morality. It's not as if all normatives/prescriptives are moral. I agree with Skepdick's arguments above. Yes, not all normatives ...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:44 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Gerwith: IS/OUGHT Resolved Rationally
Replies: 190
Views: 1364

Re: Gerwith: IS/OUGHT Resolved Rationally

I do not agree with your using strawman for Gewirth's argument. Gewirth did not use the term 'identical'. Holy moly. I'm not saying he used that term. I'm saying, that re Gewirth's argument, re "When we act (morally), we do X for purpose P" Either it's going to be the case that he's saying that P c...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:39 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 1414
Views: 50447

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Different people?? What is the question or confusion there? You stated; The problems are that: (1) Being mental phenomena, they're not objective in the sense of being person/mind/belief/bias/etc.-independent. (2) The contents of the normatives are not universal. Different people feel that different...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:28 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4771
Views: 257870

Re: What could make morality objective?

Any claim of moral rightness and wrongness, goodness and badness, propriety and impropriety - whether with reference to intentions/purposes, or to consequences - or to programming supposedly hard-wired into the human brain - and so on - any such claim can only ever express a moral opinion, even if ...
by Peter Holmes
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:22 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4771
Views: 257870

Re: What could make morality objective?

Any claim of moral rightness and wrongness, goodness and badness, propriety and impropriety - whether with reference to intentions/purposes, or to consequences - or to programming supposedly hard-wired into the human brain - and so on - any such claim can only ever express a moral opinion, even if e...
by Peter Holmes
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:21 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 1414
Views: 50447

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Any claim of moral rightness and wrongness, goodness and badness, propriety and impropriety - whether with reference to intentions/purposes, or to consequences - or to programming supposedly hard-wired into the human brain - and so on - any such claim can only ever express a moral opinion, even if e...
by Peter Holmes
Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:27 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: is/ought, final answer
Replies: 304
Views: 3094

Re: is/ought, final answer

Metaphors have their uses, but they can lead us astray. For example, the denial that there's a foundation for what we call truth and knowledge, like the denial that there are things-in-themselves, comes from anxiety over the loss of something we never had. It's entertaining a fantasy of a descriptio...
by Peter Holmes
Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:14 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What is a right action?
Replies: 175
Views: 1701

Re: What is a right action?

Of course, you need to judge the situation in order to act. Judging is necessary for action. I was very precise in defining good and evil, right and wrong. The question which is left is that whether there is a universal criterion that allows us to judge the situation and choose between good and evi...
by Peter Holmes
Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:48 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What is a right action?
Replies: 175
Views: 1701

Re: What is a right action?

Just catching up on this discussion. In my opinion, there are no morally right or wrong actions, but only actions that may be judged morally right or wrong. Of course, you need to judge the situation in order to act. Judging is necessary for action. The modifiers '(morally) right', '(morally) wrong...