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by Peter Holmes
Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:52 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: is/ought, final answer
Replies: 304
Views: 3094

Re: is/ought, final answer

A thing is a set of attributes and boundary conditions, without regard for whether they have an external correlate. I'm not making a claim. I'm describing reality. My answer does all the necessary things. What does yours do? Your answer is useless. What are the attributes and boundary conditions of...
by Peter Holmes
Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:39 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: is/ought, final answer
Replies: 304
Views: 3094

Re: is/ought, final answer

If we cut open and examine a brain, among the many things we won't find in it are oughts. But, because we suffer from an ancient metaphysical delusion, we could rummage around in search of other supposed abstract things: thoughts, ideas, concepts, propositions, feelings, desires, intentions, consci...
by Peter Holmes
Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:23 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What Does "Objective" Mean With Respect to Morality?
Replies: 80
Views: 1083

Re: What Does "Objective" Mean With Respect to Morality?

The verification and justification process is very complex and I do not intent to go into all the details, but here is the general process, 1. Model: Generic Morality-Proper FSK. 2. The definition of Morality-Proper generally [besides the detailed one] is about promoting good and avoiding evil. 3. ...
by Peter Holmes
Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:45 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What is a right action?
Replies: 174
Views: 1695

Re: What is a right action?

Actually, I wanted to discuss one thing in this thread: We are similar therefore we have to be fair. The rest, good, evil, etc. is a matter of definition and it is relevant to the discussion but I put them elsewhere so we could focus the discussion about the principle of morality here. I don't see ...
by Peter Holmes
Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:39 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4771
Views: 257862

Re: What could make morality objective?

We have to breathe or we'll die; therefore we ought to breathe. After all, humans ought to live. Not a matter of opinion. That is a matter of opinion. One may reasonably pray "Lord, do not forgive us as we know very well what we do ". Apart from the bit about prayer - I agree. I was voicing up a de...
by Peter Holmes
Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:21 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Striving to Survive with Well-Being is an Opinion?
Replies: 194
Views: 1278

Re: The Striving to Survive with Well-Being is an Opinion?

From which perspective does a claim express both a fact and a matter of opinion? And is this a fact, or a matter of opinion? Perspectives aren't true or false. They just do or don't exist. The only features of reality that have truth-value (classically, true or false) are factual assertions. (But is...
by Peter Holmes
Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:16 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: The Striving to Survive with Well-Being is an Opinion?
Replies: 194
Views: 1278

Re: The Striving to Survive with Well-Being is an Opinion?

The choice of goal (say, well-being), the moral rightness of the goal, what constitutes the goal, whether an action and its consequences are consistent with the goal - these are all matters of opinion, not matters of fact. It's subjectivity all the way. The fundamental of 'well-being' is to survive...
by Peter Holmes
Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:06 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What is a right action?
Replies: 174
Views: 1695

Re: What is a right action?

Just a sidebar on how these discussions splurge in different directions. Here are the OP and the first response. OP: 'We discuss that human is a moral agent in another thread. The rightness of action, however, must be derived from a moral principle since without moral principle one cannot find the r...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:51 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 1414
Views: 50447

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

A model is just a model. It isn't the thing being modelled. The stupid claim that all models are wrong - fashionable fifty years ago - assumes the fantasy possibility of a model that's right, without bothering to explain what that could be: a description that is the described. It's the same stupidit...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:41 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: is/ought, final answer
Replies: 304
Views: 3094

Re: is/ought, final answer

If we cut open and examine a brain, among the many things we won't find in it are oughts. But, because we suffer from an ancient metaphysical delusion, we could rummage around in search of other supposed abstract things: thoughts, ideas, concepts, propositions, feelings, desires, intentions, consci...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:22 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: is/ought, final answer
Replies: 304
Views: 3094

Re: is/ought, final answer

If we cut open and examine a brain, among the many things we won't find in it are oughts. But, because we suffer from an ancient metaphysical delusion, we could rummage around in search of other supposed abstract things: thoughts, ideas, concepts, propositions, feelings, desires, intentions, conscio...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:10 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 1414
Views: 50447

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

If there are no moral facts, then there are only moral opinions. If there are only moral opinions, then there can be rational moral disagreements. The existence of such irreconcilable disagreements, such as over abortion and capital punishment, counts against the case for moral facts. Moral realists...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:43 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What Does "Objective" Mean With Respect to Morality?
Replies: 80
Views: 1083

Re: What Does "Objective" Mean With Respect to Morality?

People have and express opinions, such as 'abortion is morally wrong' and 'abortion is not morally wrong'. Those opinions exist and have consequences. Der. Well, or they can have consquences. They don't always. Not that Skepdick is that clear on his views, because at times he's seemed to be an (sol...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:41 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: is/ought, final answer
Replies: 304
Views: 3094

Re: is/ought, final answer

VA - a question. Here's your argument: P1 IS = Reality, being, all-there-is. P2 All-there-is comprises oughtness, thus moral 'ought_ness' [justified empirically]. C1 Thus a moral 'ought' is "is" C2 Therefore a moral-ought is derivable from "is'. Did you mean this to be an example of recursion - of ...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:34 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Gerwith: IS/OUGHT Resolved Rationally
Replies: 190
Views: 1364

Re: Gerwith: IS/OUGHT Resolved Rationally

Outside language, there are no linguistic categories, because reality is not linguistic. Der. There's no foundation, for what we say, beneath our linguistic practices. Der. Any description - any truth-claim - is contextual and conventional. There's no such thing as a context-free description. Der. A...