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by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 108
Views: 1837

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

You are drowning in your own diversionary Gobbledygook. Let me throw you a Life Preserver and remind you that the problem is in the question: You've been working on this for 20 years and haven't made an in ch of progress. Keep it - you need it more than me. How does an Experience of Redness happen ...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1367

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

Your mind is locked to your body. That's weird. I'll explain below: When you change your personality (for a variety of reasons, damage, drugs - whatever) you will still see the world through the eyes of that very same body - even though the body has replaced all the atoms over many years. I find th...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:12 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1367

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

Hi guys, I’m gonna have a go at clearing this confusion between neural correlates of consciousness and consciousness itself, and also explaining the term consciousness space as for what SteveKlinko originally meant it. You’ll tell me if it makes sense and I’m right. First, let's be sure we agree on...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1367

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

There is a huge Explanatory Gap between the statement Pattern of Neurons and an Experience of Redness. What metric are you using for determining whether an explanatory gaps is tiny or huge? What is the size of the explanatory gap between "computer vision capable of object recognition and classifica...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:52 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1367

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

You say Red is a Pattern. Are you also saying that the Experience of Redness is no more than a Pattern? If so I don't understand what you are saying. How is an Experience of something like Redness a Pattern? Because the various wavelengths hitting the retina cause the neurons in the CNS to activate...
by SteveKlinko
Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 108
Views: 1837

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

But it isn't just me that is unable to figure it out. The fundamental problem lies in the fact that you don't understand what the above sentence means. What does it mean to "figure something out"? Have you figured out electrons? Your problem may be even worse than epistemic. Your problem may be sem...
by SteveKlinko
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1367

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

You say Red is a Pattern. Are you also saying that the Experience of Redness is no more than a Pattern? If so I don't understand what you are saying. How is an Experience of something like Redness a Pattern? Because the various wavelengths hitting the retina cause the neurons in the CNS to activate...
by SteveKlinko
Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1367

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

Might be, but there is a huge Explanatory Gap as to how the CNS produces Conscious Experience or Consciousness in general. Science has known that there was a connection between Neural Activity and Conscious Experience for a hundred years. Also for a hundred years there has been no Explanation for h...
by SteveKlinko
Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 108
Views: 1837

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

I reject your mandate that I must understand some particular Mind concept first. That's hardly what I mandated. You don't need to understand any particular Mind-concept, but you do need a theory of Mind. A high-fidelity reductionist model of what the Mind is. How it works, how it behaves etc. Do yo...
by SteveKlinko
Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:11 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1367

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

Could be. All Speculations are still on the table when it comes to Conscious Experience. I have tried to understand how Conscious Experience could be in the Neurons but can not find any good explanations of how that could be true. ... Think about it this way. We know from research with computationa...
by SteveKlinko
Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:55 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 108
Views: 1837

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

Maybe... But who knows how many layers Deep it actually is. You have to begin somewhere and this is where I am, at this point in time. You have put the cart before the horse. Before you theorize about "Redness in minds" you need to establish a sound theory of mind. Perhaps this paper on epistemolog...
by SteveKlinko
Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:12 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 108
Views: 1837

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

I don't know what the Mind is and nobody knows what the Mind is. Speculation is all we have with regard to Consciousness and the Mind at this point in our understanding. Hence: you are asking speculative questions two layers deep into your own ignorance. You don't know what the mind is, but you are...
by SteveKlinko
Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:14 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 108
Views: 1837

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

I don't avoid the question of how the Neural Activity produces the Mind and in fact I think that is the 800lb Gorilla in the room. But asking the more complicated question of how is Mind generated does not get you anywhere. It is better to pick a more simple aspect or component of Mind like Redness...
by SteveKlinko
Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:04 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 108
Views: 1837

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

You sure know how to avoid the main issue by throwing in extraneous and pointless side issues. The question remains, Given: 1) Neural Activity for Red happens in the Brain 2) A Conscious Experience of Redness happens in the Mind Q.E.D you don't even know that distinctions are just another instrumen...
by SteveKlinko
Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1367

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

Could be. All Speculations are still on the table when it comes to Conscious Experience. I have tried to understand how Conscious Experience could be in the Neurons but can not find any good explanations of how that could be true. I agree with your last paragraph where you say that Consciousness mus...