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by SteveKlinko
Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 102
Views: 1376

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

You are missing the fine points of the question. By asking how Neural Activity produces Redness I am implicitly asking the Deeper question of What is Redness in the first place. Your analogy misses the point because we already know what an Apple is and what the Ground is. However we don't even know...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1060

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

When it comes to what we know about Conscious Experience at this point in time we find that Dualism is where Science is stuck at. Neural Activity happens and then a Conscious Experience happens. This is not science's fault. By virtue of asking for an explanation dualism is born. The two categories ...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:04 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Cartesian dualism
Replies: 49
Views: 859

Re: Cartesian dualism

I'm more optimistic because I think that everything will eventually be Explained some day. On the other hand I'm pessimistic because that will be a bad day for us because the Mystery is the Glory of our existence. When we do figure it all out we will have to do something to make us forget all the a...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:53 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1060

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

The history of our understanding of Gravity is interesting. Gravity has had some serious point of view changes over the years with one or the other of 3 or 4 theories dominating at any given point in time. But the simple question of how does Neural Activity produce something like the Experience of ...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:40 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1060

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

Yes it does. Science can ever predict decision making by scanning the brain. If you scan the Brain you are detecting Neural Activity not actual Conscious Experience. What sort of proof is going to satisfy you? None. Neural activity is consciousness. Nothing is going to show "ACTUAL consciousness". ...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Cartesian dualism
Replies: 49
Views: 859

Re: Cartesian dualism

I think the mind body problem will always remain a great puzzle. I do wonder, however, why not "dualism"? Why should monism be so attractive? It's said that dualism creates the problem of how two completely different entities (mind and body) are able to interact with each other. However, the univer...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1060

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

It isn't possible, at this point in time, for Science to show that the Neural Activity is the Conscious Experience. Yes it does. Science can ever predict decision making by scanning the brain. Philosophy of mind isn't my field, but as I understand it, the neural activity that scientists associate w...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1060

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

No. Your problem here is that you start with the assumption that the mind is other than the body (which it is not). This means that everything you continue with is slewed in understanding. If I replace the tires on a car, or a battery, or even the engine it is still the same car. The idea that chan...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1060

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

Ok so you are saying that a Pattern of Neurons is involved. Saying that it is a Pattern of Neurons firing has no more Explanatory power than just saying there was Neural Activity and then the Redness happened. There is a huge Explanatory Gap between the statement Pattern of Neurons and an Experienc...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 102
Views: 1376

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

You are drowning in your own diversionary Gobbledygook. Let me throw you a Life Preserver and remind you that the problem is in the question: You've been working on this for 20 years and haven't made an in ch of progress. Keep it - you need it more than me. How does an Experience of Redness happen ...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1060

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

Your mind is locked to your body. That's weird. I'll explain below: When you change your personality (for a variety of reasons, damage, drugs - whatever) you will still see the world through the eyes of that very same body - even though the body has replaced all the atoms over many years. I find th...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:12 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1060

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

Hi guys, I’m gonna have a go at clearing this confusion between neural correlates of consciousness and consciousness itself, and also explaining the term consciousness space as for what SteveKlinko originally meant it. You’ll tell me if it makes sense and I’m right. First, let's be sure we agree on...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1060

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

There is a huge Explanatory Gap between the statement Pattern of Neurons and an Experience of Redness. What metric are you using for determining whether an explanatory gaps is tiny or huge? What is the size of the explanatory gap between "computer vision capable of object recognition and classifica...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:52 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Locked Mind Thought Experiment
Replies: 87
Views: 1060

Re: Locked Mind Thought Experiment

You say Red is a Pattern. Are you also saying that the Experience of Redness is no more than a Pattern? If so I don't understand what you are saying. How is an Experience of something like Redness a Pattern? Because the various wavelengths hitting the retina cause the neurons in the CNS to activate...
by SteveKlinko
Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''
Replies: 102
Views: 1376

Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

But it isn't just me that is unable to figure it out. The fundamental problem lies in the fact that you don't understand what the above sentence means. What does it mean to "figure something out"? Have you figured out electrons? Your problem may be even worse than epistemic. Your problem may be sem...