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by SteveKlinko
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 27183

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

"Suppose that there be a machine,the structure of which produces thinking,feeling and perceiving; imagine this machine enlarged but preserving the same proportions, so that you could enter it as if it were a mill. This being supposed, you might visit its inside; but what would you observe there? No...
by SteveKlinko
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:17 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"
Replies: 381
Views: 27183

Re: Leibniz's mill and the "Hard problem of consciousness"

"Suppose that there be a machine,the structure of which produces thinking,feeling and perceiving; imagine this machine enlarged but preserving the same proportions, so that you could enter it as if it were a mill. This being supposed, you might visit its inside; but what would you observe there? No...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:30 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

Where there is an Illusion there is always an implied Observer of the Illusion. Everything we know could be a Virtual Reality kind of Illusion but I perceive an independent existent Physical Reality. It seems to me that there are separate Physical things and separate Conscious things in our Reality...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:02 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

Good Links. We always like it when we can see parallels to our own thinking. Yes, thanks, I like to think it's the same thinker thinking it's own thoughts, discovering for itself what is already here as itself...but this self has to born itself in order to experience itself, and every time there is...
by SteveKlinko
Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

Hi Steve. Here are 2 more interesting articles for you to read, if you haven't read them already that is. :D They are current discussions going on at the Science & Nonduality Conference. The Real Time Traveler https://scienceandnonduality.wordpress.com/2017/01/25/the-real-time-traveler/ Consciousne...
by SteveKlinko
Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:53 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

No one has ever seen external light. Right On! We have only ever seen our own internal Conscious Light. You get an A. I won't be surprised if SteveKlinko is another sockpuppet from dontaskme; here the entire "internal ̶c̶o̶n̶s̶c̶i̶o̶u̶s̶ light" DEBUNKED, for anyone who accesses this bs OP, http://w...
by SteveKlinko
Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

I feel like it is a quest. The depth of the confusion about Consciousness amazes me. The thing that is the most frustrating is when they say it is just an Illusion. Hi Steve. Yeah, I think the quest is on ...for we have only questions, not answers...and yeah, the word ''illusion'' does seem to get ...
by SteveKlinko
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

I think it is simple. Brain produces Qualia and mind experience it. Experience is a property of mind. It's like saying that given that there is a signal coming into your TV from the cable company, the reason there is an image on you TV screen is that Images are a property of a TV. There would be a ...
by SteveKlinko
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:06 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

Maybe someday I'll get it. But for now I have to keep asking. Asking...is a movement of the mind...the more you move, you move right along side with that moment, never quite catching what it is you want to catch. Tis, only in perfect stillness is this seen. Seen, but never caught, for this cannot a...
by SteveKlinko
Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:24 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

Here is the basic question that this thread asks ... Given: 1) Neural Activity for Red happens. 2) A Conscious experience of Red happens. How does 1 produce 2? The old Dodge that the Red experience is just an Illusion doesn't work anymore. Even if you think it is an Illusion then what is the thing ...
by SteveKlinko
Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:06 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

But the simple question remains: How is it that we experience the color Red? What is Conscious Red? I need this answer before I can move on to anything else. This is the Brick Wall that Science and Philosophy have hit. But Steve, it's a hard question for the one who want's to know, but a simple que...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:56 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

Just the fact that Science has so much trouble with Consciousness tells me that Consciousness is a separate thing apart from the Physical World. It's because consciousness is not a thing...science only deals in things Steve. The mind is the interface between the unknown no thing aka awareness and t...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

I still recognize a separate Outside World and Inside World. I know. But only you can close the gap. If you believe that gap is going to be closed by someone else, then ask yourself, how have they closed it? And if they can close it, then so can you. Good luck Steve. . Just the fact that Science ha...
by SteveKlinko
Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

I ask the question because I don't know the answer. The answer would solve the Explanatory Gap problem of Conscious experience. Since the Red experience is something that is inside the Conscious Mind, the Red must be part of the Conscious Mind. The Conscious Mind is part of what we are and the Red ...
by SteveKlinko
Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:01 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The Inter Mind
Replies: 288
Views: 28209

Re: The Inter Mind

Here is the basic question that this thread asks ... Given: 1) Neural Activity for Red happens. 2) A Conscious experience of Red happens. How does 1 produce 2? I don't know, but I can only guess it happens like this... https://bouman.chem.georgetown.edu/S02/lect10/prism.gif What do you think, and d...