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by commonsense
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: We can accept that the apple exists independent of human experience...

Re format: I am working with a phone and a physical disability. After cut and paste erroneously I became too fatigued to fix. Btw, this post (3 sentences) took more time (> 3 minutes) to write, but only seconds to think up. Will reply other in your post later. If I would still believe that the exis...
by commonsense
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:02 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: Which of these is Real and True?

Human beings came to exist, or evolved into Existence, from other things. Before human beings started existing there MUST OF been other things previously. (Unless, of course, 'you' BELIEVE otherwise.) ALL 'things', by definition, are objects, so 'other things' also are objects. Before human beings ...
by commonsense
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: We can accept that the apple exists independent of human experience...

Btw, this post (3 sentences) took more time (> 3 minutes) to write, but only seconds to think up. If the Truth be KNOWN, the Truth of things is ALREADY KNOWN, but there just seems like there is not enough time to explain It, which would appear counter-intuitive. What is ALREADY KNOWN to and by some...
by commonsense
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: We can accept that the apple exists independent of human experience...

commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:37 am Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:01 am commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:37 am . ...but we have no means at our disposal to actually prove it exists. The problem I highlighted was about what happens to the apple when no one is looking. Age wrote: ↑Mo...
by commonsense
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:05 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: Common

This would make you smart enough to be fooled that things still exist when you are not experiencing them. How so? Just suppose there is something you don’t know AND you don’t know that you don’t know it AND you come across it later. You must have been able to imagine it all along but you didn’t kno...
by commonsense
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:55 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: Which of these is Real and True?

Human beings came to exist, or evolved into Existence, from other things. Before human beings started existing there MUST OF been other things previously. (Unless, of course, 'you' BELIEVE otherwise.) ALL 'things', by definition, are objects, so 'other things' also are objects. Before human beings ...
by commonsense
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: Common

This would make you smart enough to be fooled that things still exist when you are not experiencing them. How so? Just suppose there is something you don’t know AND you don’t know that you don’t know it AND you come across it later. You must have been able to imagine it all along but you didn’t kno...
by commonsense
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:10 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Do we need consciousness?
Replies: 158
Views: 2203

Re: Do we need consciousness?

What measure of time do you consider enough? Are you the one that has the final say in such matters? Both had/have to do with the excretion/elimination of toxins, how long has it been that we're more knowledgeable about what we should and should not eat/drink? Have you studied biochemistry at all, ...
by commonsense
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Do we need consciousness?
Replies: 158
Views: 2203

Re: Do we need consciousness?

To deny evolution, thus time is ridiculous. Yes. Evolution is the reason why the appendix is obsolete, but renal functionality does not have anything to do with evolution (this has been unchanged by time). What measure of time do you consider enough? Are you the one that has the final say in such m...
by commonsense
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: We can accept that the apple exists independent of human experience...

commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:37 am Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:01 am commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:37 am . ...but we have no means at our disposal to actually prove it exists. The problem I highlighted was about what happens to the apple when no one is looking. Age wrote: ↑Mo...
by commonsense
Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Do we need consciousness?
Replies: 158
Views: 2203

Re: Do we need consciousness?

We need what ever it is that we have, else we wouldn’t have it. The appendix is obsolete. Eyebrows are not necessary. 1 kidney can do the work of 2. To deny evolution, thus time is ridiculous. Yes. Evolution is the reason why the appendix is obsolete, but renal functionality does not have anything ...
by commonsense
Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Do we need consciousness?
Replies: 158
Views: 2203

Re: Do we need consciousness?

There is a difference between being optimally functional and able to survive. Technically we can get by without legs, but you don’t see many people opting to amputate. Eyebrows serve an important function of expression and communication. Sure, we can text each other, but you wouldn’t go ripping out...
by commonsense
Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:41 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: Which of these is Real and True?

Human beings came to exist, or evolved into Existence, from other things. Before human beings started existing there MUST OF been other things previously. (Unless, of course, 'you' BELIEVE otherwise.) ALL 'things', by definition, are objects, so 'other things' also are objects. Before human beings ...
by commonsense
Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: We can accept that the apple exists independent of human experience...

. ...but we have no means at our disposal to actually prove it exists. The problem I highlighted was about what happens to the apple when no one is looking. Considering 'you' are calling 'it' an "apple", implies or infers that 'it' remains an 'apple', even when there are no human beings looking at ...
by commonsense
Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Which of these is Real and True?
Replies: 80
Views: 1053

Re: Which of these is Real and True?

"Humans + basic concepts + concept of apple + consciousness = emergence of a real apple." I think it's more like this... Man apprehends thing , experiences its qualities, names those qualities, names the thing . Without Man there is no apprehending of thing , no experiencing of thing's qualities, n...