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by osgart
Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
Replies: 74
Views: 4482

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

God aint real is how i really feel. The Bible is full of erroneous judgments from ancient sand dwellers. They cant keep the story straight and its amazing that the book caught on like wild fire. Its pure nonsense. With the exception of Eden story, and a few other curiosities, id trash the whole thin...
by osgart
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
Replies: 74
Views: 4482

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

I am talking about the anointed cherub in ezekiel 28. God made him perfect in all his ways. A cherub is the highest ranking angel. He was perfect til iniquity was found in him. God made something perfect, and it became a terror. Its as if God did not realize from the first that God's created beings ...
by osgart
Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:38 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
Replies: 74
Views: 4482

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

They did not know they were naked because they had no shame of it, in their perfectly naive innocence. Everything they learned was starting from nothing. God screwed up so bad the first time by making his first creation perfectly knowledgeable, and thus perfectly dangerous. So God decided to make hi...
by osgart
Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:25 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
Replies: 74
Views: 4482

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Competition is made to create the best alternatives. I do not see it as being evil. Neither do I and I did not say it was. The losers of a competition must find what they are best at, when defeated. The losers of a competition are not murdered, nor destroyed. Correct, that is why the loser would se...
by osgart
Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
Replies: 74
Views: 4482

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Some leeway is always required with myths. Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”. That is "God gave us free will and it was our free willed choices that caused our fall. Hence God is not b...
by osgart
Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:42 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
Replies: 74
Views: 4482

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Your assumption is not following the story line so I doubt that we will get far. How could they have knowledge and understanding of good and evil before consuming the knowledge of what good and evil from the knowledge tree? Regards DL God made them with free will, and the capacity to understand, it...
by osgart
Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
Replies: 74
Views: 4482

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

They had the presence of God, and the presence of Satan. As they experienced both of them, they already had sufficient understanding of good and evil. To eat from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil was redundant, and therefore a waste of an action. God did not create them without minds, and...
by osgart
Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:18 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
Replies: 74
Views: 4482

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Nahh i would of sought out God, and ate from the tree of life. This reality bites the dust. All Adam and Eve did was already in their hearts to do. They had every good thing otherwise then what they did. They had freedom and chose defiance. Why defy God? They could have known life instead of good a...
by osgart
Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:22 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
Replies: 74
Views: 4482

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Nahh i would of sought out God, and ate from the tree of life. This reality bites the dust. All Adam and Eve did was already in their hearts to do. They had every good thing otherwise then what they did. They had freedom and chose defiance. Why defy God? They could have known life instead of good an...
by osgart
Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:58 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do Christians believe they have God on their side?
Replies: 45
Views: 2163

Re: Why do Christians believe they have God on their side?

They screwed up so bad in life they figure so did everybody else. And their God saves only sinners, so they specifically qualify for redemption. I had a Christian tell me, " you know you did it, confess it to God". He did not know anything about me. So basically they blow off people as sinners on th...
by osgart
Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Atheism as True
Replies: 16
Views: 1158

Re: Atheism as True

Theists are mostly those who worship an us versus them god, i agree with that. Perhaps if they worshipped a truly benevolent god, and a truly just god, then they would be left alone and not find themselves in constant opposition. Also many theists delude themselves about the nature of reality. Thats...
by osgart
Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Life is not Religious. Life is not a Religion.
Replies: 121
Views: 5716

Re: Life is not Religious. Life is not a Religion.

To me that is empathy. To care for others as well as self. The self and selfless aspects of being a person. The monkeywrench in all that is the problem of evil. How does one handle an evil person? Mercy and punishment. Self motives are not all bad. Rather its the nature of the motive. The care of se...
by osgart
Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:08 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Life is not Religious. Life is not a Religion.
Replies: 121
Views: 5716

Re: Life is not Religious. Life is not a Religion.

We are all totally separate beings. The idea of oneness with everybody i find totally absurd. Why would anybody want to lose their individuality? I would rather not exist. And that is my humility not egocentric hanging on to an illusion.
by osgart
Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:11 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is religion evolving?
Replies: 1
Views: 237

Is religion evolving?

As knowledge and information grow perhaps people are becoming more intelligent. And the more intelligent they become, the more religious myths become mythology, and less and less of it is taken literally. However the motivations of religion are not going to go away. Those motivations of eternal life...
by osgart
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:42 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Youth Violence = Deprived OF Christian Values = Aggressive Secularism.
Replies: 156
Views: 7217

Re: Youth Violence = Deprived OF Christian Values = Aggressive Secularism.

I never said anything about christianity being secular. Its just that ideologies demand conformity. Ideologies oppress. Im wary of people doing things in the name of God. Im also wary of anyone who claims absolute knowledge. Why do ideologies always strive for conformists? Believe or else, know or e...