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by OuterLimits
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:32 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Relativity?
Replies: 1111
Views: 93539

Re: Relativity?

I will try again, how long would a photon take to travel from earth to alpha centauri? Somehow I suspect you don't care about the answer to this, but the math is trivial. If A-C is 4 light years away, then it takes a photon 4 years to get there. That's what it means to be 4 light years away. It is ...
by OuterLimits
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:14 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1471
Views: 123912

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

Virtual particles can't be said to have no cause. They just don't have a known or comprehensible cause. Please source this. There is still ongoing debate regarding whether the randomness is intrinsic or a matter of epistemology. In Bohmian mechanics for instance, particles have definite location and...
by OuterLimits
Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:11 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1471
Views: 123912

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

(Or if we did want to have causes, that is to say 'things that act on other things', then why can't the diner be one of them?) The things that 'act' on other things do so automatically. Each is a conduit for the cause-and-effect movement of energy. Whether you call the individual particle within th...
by OuterLimits
Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:40 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1471
Views: 123912

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

See Conway-Kochen Strong Free Will theorem, which also invokes super-determinsim. It's not the same as standard determinism. Super-determinism implies that all our choices in experimental setups are biased in such a way that we will never be able to form a correct theory. This seems wildly implausi...
by OuterLimits
Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:49 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1471
Views: 123912

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

That said, we don't need to focus, as philosophers, on QM. I believe our attention is better directed toward analyzing the premises of causal determinism. To do this, we can disregard QM. QM is statistical. If one were impatient, looking only at a few results, one would have no "theory" at all. The...
by OuterLimits
Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:37 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1471
Views: 123912

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

Causal determinism is in conflict with quantum indeterminism. Apart from that, what do we mean by determinism (even assuming it is valid)? And what do we mean by free will? Libertarian free will is that we have freedom of action that is contra-causal: outside determinism, self-activated. Evidence: ...
by OuterLimits
Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:41 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1471
Views: 123912

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"that which you believed chosen was actually preordained" Evidence, please. Is there "evidence" of cause and effect? Or is it just an (inescapable) mental model? Anyway, in our usual mental model where things must be caused to occur, then those "chosen" events logically turn out to be (blindly) pre...
by OuterLimits
Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:20 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1471
Views: 123912

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

If you "can" do anything, then you are making choices. For an observer of nature, "can" usually means one doesn't know what the observed will do, not that it is a "free agent'. It's all about causation. If your choice is not caused or determined by the physical world, it must be caused by something ...
by OuterLimits
Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:01 pm
Forum: Articles in Philosophy Now
Topic: In Defense Of Dueling
Replies: 2
Views: 437

Re: In Defense Of Dueling

"Our values of freedom" are simply a curse. They hold America back.

The rest of the advanced world does not have a first or second amendment, and they're better off for it.

In civilization, responsibility will be put first, and then freedom maximized within that framework.
by OuterLimits
Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:50 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Relativity?
Replies: 1111
Views: 93539

Re: Relativity?

Right -- of course I've actually said this several times, and so has uwot. They key is that for the travelers to actually compare their clocks, they must meet again in the same frame -- and that will require one or both breaking their IF and entering an accelerated frame, in which the symmetry of t...
by OuterLimits
Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:53 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Relativity?
Replies: 1111
Views: 93539

Re: Relativity?

Well ken, the bits that everyone repeats are the historical claims made by Einstein, the thought experiment he proposed to demonstrate his claims, and the experimental results which show conclusively that what Einstein claimed would happen, actually happens. But that seems to be as far as you got, ...
by OuterLimits
Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:33 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1471
Views: 123912

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

Causal determinism — the idea that because the unalterable past, in conjunction with the laws of nature, determine everything that happens, we have no free will. This is incorrect. I think the most Hard Scientific Minds believe in causal determinism. I certainly see nothing wrong with it, from a sc...
by OuterLimits
Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:41 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: A New Constitution
Replies: 46
Views: 3716

Re: A New Constitution

I'd replace the stoplight at a busy intersection with one word: consent.
(Watch out! That first step's a doozy !)
by OuterLimits
Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:41 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: WHAT MIND IS
Replies: 40
Views: 3303

Re: WHAT MIND IS

Celebritydiscodave2 wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:07 pm
Mind is simply the collective ultimate best survival mech available.
Does your usage of mind include first person subjective experience? Is it different from brain?
by OuterLimits
Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:29 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Sex vs violence
Replies: 10
Views: 709

Re: Sex vs violence

American sexploitation in advertising has been on the rise since the 1960's. Sex was big in movies in the 1970s and then with the ascendancy of conservatism it declined. It's been coming back lately. Porn of course is a whole different thing. wikipedia > censorship in Sweden "The new board, Statens...