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by seeds
Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:07 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: The problem of self under materialism
Replies: 214
Views: 17130

Re: The problem of self under materialism

I thought I had done so. The recipe for consciousness is having a working brain, of the type humans have. Brain is the "cake." By the time one has a working brain in place, consciousness is already a fait accompli -- the "baking" is done already. We all know that, so it's entirely uninteresting. Th...
by seeds
Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:17 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Replies: 237
Views: 20331

Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?

The raison d'être of Islam is the idolatry of the written word presumed sacred causing it to be severely literal, nonconformist and fundamentalist as if it were some ecumenical truth not to be negated without consequences...the implication being that idolatry is equally applicable to the written wo...
by seeds
Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Replies: 237
Views: 20331

Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?

Well put and I agree with a caveat. I offer that the fact that Muslims kill those who draw the wrong form in a caricature of Allah or Mohammad get into trouble or death. That indicates that Muslims do give Allah and Mohammad a form. If nothing else, Muslims do seem to be practicing a quasi form of ...
by seeds
Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:14 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Replies: 237
Views: 20331

Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?

thedoc wrote:
A symbol is only useful if the viewer of that symbol knows what the symbol represents, if that is lost then the symbol becomes an idol, and useless as a symbol.
Yes, that makes sense.
by seeds
Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:10 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
Replies: 237
Views: 20331

Re: Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?

Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers? Basically, yes. However, instead of “idols,” I suggest that a more apt description is that of “intermediary images.” In other words, humans create images and models of God that are easy to picture in one's mind, to which they can then focus th...
by seeds
Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:05 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE
Replies: 137
Views: 12299

Re: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE

_______ (Continued from prior post) You appear to believe in an ''individual human consciousness''...whereas I believe ''human consciousness'' is an appearance in one undivided consciousness. You consider the ''individual human consciousness'' to be the centre behind the eyes from where all perceivi...
by seeds
Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:04 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE
Replies: 137
Views: 12299

Re: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE

_______ (Continued from prior post) When you use the word “completeness,” or when Dam uses the word “oneness,” I see them both as titles of a book, yet when I open the book, the pages are blank. They are words used to evoke a sense of something profound being stated when, in fact, absolutely nothing...
by seeds
Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:03 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE
Replies: 137
Views: 12299

Re: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE

_______ (Continued from prior post) There is something very appealing and beautiful about that kind of freedom to be. Aliveness is here and no one is in charge, look at how all the other creatures are this living aliveness and how effortless they live it. They're not searching for answers or for tru...
by seeds
Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:01 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE
Replies: 137
Views: 12299

Re: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE

_______ (Continued from prior post) ...the mind of experience is believed to exist since nothingness cannot be...and this is the sheer wonder and beauty of it all, it's not a negative, the fiction is appearing real to us...so we buy it, believe it, and live it. But it's only ever a fiction appearing...
by seeds
Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:00 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE
Replies: 137
Views: 12299

Re: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE

Seeds seems to have fallen silent on this topic, maybe because seeds is over thinking this too intellectually for a subject that is basically very simple. Nah, not silent, I just need to come up for air once in a while. Clearly you have not given much thought to what your mind can do. Picture how “...
by seeds
Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:33 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why does Greed overtake our Need?
Replies: 24
Views: 2879

Re: Why does Greed overtake our Need?

Why is this thread in the "Philosophy of Religion" forum?
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by seeds
Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:50 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE
Replies: 137
Views: 12299

Re: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE

But make no mistake about the fact that you and Dam and Lacewing are promoting a nihilistic vision of reality (at least in terms of our status in eternity). No, I'm not. You are the one making a mistake to accuse and label me in such a way. You do not understand my perspective... and I'm done tryin...
by seeds
Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:26 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE
Replies: 137
Views: 12299

Re: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE

You know nothing about the you that you imagine you are, and neither do I... ...you are talking absolute nonsense...which is generally what all humans do anyway... including me. Out of your last five posts, those two quotes are your most logical assertions and pretty much establish how serious we s...
by seeds
Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:24 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE
Replies: 137
Views: 12299

Re: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE

...why would you assume that an atheist would not do the same thing to the girl that you did? Why would you assume that an atheist would go to her and tell her that her life is meaningless? Why would you assume anyone would be that callous or stupid? Atheism, by reason of the fact that it rejects t...
by seeds
Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:23 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE
Replies: 137
Views: 12299

Re: THE RELIGIONS – THEIR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE

“ Artwork” implies the existence of an “artist. ” This is a human perspective, but there is no reason to expect that the Universe behaves according to human expectations. And there is no reason to believe that it doesn't either. For example, it is a completely reasonable “human expectation” to assu...