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by seeds
Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:09 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists
Replies: 1887
Views: 146899

Re: Mr Can doesn't understand.

...if there was no literal “fall of man” by means of an “original sin” that never happened, then why do you think humans need to be saved? Saved from what? Well, two starting points. Firstly, you do realize that even the Evolutionist story (progress by genetic mutation) agrees entirely with the sta...
by seeds
Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:14 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists
Replies: 1887
Views: 146899

Re: Mr Can doesn't understand.

_______ (Continued from prior post) I think that if God thought I needed to know the answer to that particular issue, He would have told me. No, God provided you with the inherent ability to reason certain things out on your own, and he shouldn’t need to tell you the answers to questions that common...
by seeds
Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:12 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists
Replies: 1887
Views: 146899

Re: Mr Can doesn't understand.

Therefore, what is so fallacious about wondering what happens to anyone (in this case, a one year old child) who dies without the slightest idea of who Christ is? I was referring to the sort of implied ideas in your proposed dilemma, such as that a) children who wear costumes are from other ideolog...
by seeds
Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:11 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists
Replies: 1887
Views: 146899

Re: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists

Not the case, oh mysterious stranger. Unknown unknowns remind us to be cautious about making claims with certainty. Your comments say rather more about you than you realise too ... the walls have eyes and ears, Hob ... er ... Brad . I don't think there's any reason to entertain the existence of Iro...
by seeds
Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:10 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists
Replies: 1887
Views: 146899

Re: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists

I don't know what will happen after death, but I know that there are many who will try to assert that they know. I'm reminded of a conversation I had with my father, and the conversation came around to Heaven and he said that he had been told that in Heaven we would spend all day praising God and s...
by seeds
Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists
Replies: 1887
Views: 146899

Re: Mr Can doesn't understand.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand? Because the dilemma as you are currently framing it requires assumptions that I think are simply fallacious; and questions based on fallacious premises cannot be answered coherently. I am basing the “dilemma” on the implications of your own words. Let...
by seeds
Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:42 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists
Replies: 1887
Views: 146899

Re: Mr Can doesn't understand.

...For there is no other "door" to God but Christ. And if a person won't walk through that door, then he/she will have to find whatever other place to inhabit they wish. But sadly, I am quite sure that it will not be with God... He just cannot seem to understand that had he awakened into the arms o...
by seeds
Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:11 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How God could fail to convey His message?
Replies: 629
Views: 57179

Re: How God could fail to convey His message?

:lol: It seems that we are all a party to "derailing this thread" but I find the derail just as interesting as the OP, and It seems that a few others do to as well. :lol: Doc, this isn't rocket science. At the expense of derailing this thread even further... ...if an exciting new topic like “fat an...
by seeds
Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:10 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How God could fail to convey His message?
Replies: 629
Views: 57179

Re: How God could fail to convey His message?

Isn’t the search for “Ultimate Truth” kind of at the core of philosophy itself? No! What kind of "ultimate" do you expect philosophy to discover? If you Google the definition of philosophy, then I “expect” the core impetus of philosophy (in other words, the “spirit” that drives philosophical enquir...
by seeds
Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:09 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How God could fail to convey His message?
Replies: 629
Views: 57179

Re: How God could fail to convey His message?

What does this private chit chat conversation about what you eat or how you want to die on a couch have to do with the topic or... anything of public interest at all? :mrgreen: Maybe you should PM each other privately. I completely agree with Lacewing here. Apparently, the phrase “derailing a threa...
by seeds
Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:21 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How God could fail to convey His message?
Replies: 629
Views: 57179

Re: How God could fail to convey His message?

Greta wrote: Just wondering, what message would it be?
I think the gist of the question is that if God is all-powerful and all-knowing (a Being who could conceivably rearrange the stars to literally spell out his intentions in words across the night sky), then why hasn’t he done so?
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by seeds
Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:40 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How God could fail to convey His message?
Replies: 629
Views: 57179

Re: How God could fail to convey His message?

However, as I have been asserting in other threads, I believe that we will never be allowed to understand the “ultimate truth” of reality (in any irrefutable way) while we still exist within the confines of the universe itself. An "Ultimate Truth" by its very nature is of no importance to the exist...
by seeds
Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:25 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How God could fail to convey His message?
Replies: 629
Views: 57179

Re: How God could fail to convey His message?

I think that God’s implicit message to the world is quite clear: Be fruitful and multiply and you will understand the reason for it all after you die. Until then, religions are just the pacifying teats for the worldlings to suckle on. Is there a critical amount required in the population before we ...
by seeds
Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:21 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists
Replies: 1887
Views: 146899

Re: Mr Can doesn't understand.

_______ (Continued from prior post) ...the point was that God forgives us being imperfect, and how it was done is less important, but it seems that some people need that extreme act, for it to be believable. I would go so far as to suggest that God not only forgives all of us for our imperfections, ...
by seeds
Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:20 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists
Replies: 1887
Views: 146899

Re: Mr Can doesn't understand.

_______ All that being said, again I pose the question to you... (or anyone else who cares to address the issue) ...that if one can doubt the veracity of an “original sin” (for surely it was a mythological event that never actually occurred), then what does that say about the need for the blood sacr...