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by seeds
Fri May 10, 2019 4:27 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 3148

Re: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

...if you do not believe that the physical body has anything to do with the manifestation of our ultimate and eternal form,... ...then please give it your best guess as to HOW our singularly unique individualization of personal consciousness acquired its individuated structure? In other words, if n...
by seeds
Thu May 09, 2019 5:29 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 3148

Re: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

The point is that other than being a particularly charismatic purveyor of standard Hindu dogma (most of which is mythological nonsense), is there anything else about his teachings that truly represent something earth shattering? Your question was, what are we to make of it. Well, I keep dancin' and...
by seeds
Wed May 08, 2019 3:11 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 3148

Re: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

So let me get this straight. In deference to Ramana, you personally think that the best thing that could ever happen to humanity is for everyone on the planet to... 1. Strip down to their underpants and assume the lotus position. 2. Eliminate all thought and sensations to the point of no longer bei...
by seeds
Tue May 07, 2019 3:56 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 3148

Re: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

Most kids with two working brain cells to rub together would consider that to be a problem (and rightly so) and try to do something about it. So what are we supposed to make of it? Integration of uncorrupted equanimity into daily activities requires a period of adjustment which customarily requires...
by seeds
Mon May 06, 2019 12:16 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 3148

Re: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

He was just a kid when the ants ate away at his legs. Most kids with two working brain cells to rub together would consider that to be a problem (and rightly so) and try to do something about it. So what are we supposed to make of it? After he was found and cared for by those with the eyes to see w...
by seeds
Sun May 05, 2019 9:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 3148

Re: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

Many Easterners are just really bad at logic. I think you can safely say that about many Westerners as well, but I get your point. Once they figure out the "True Self", they tend to go into this detached, antisocial, empty meditative state where they sit around all day and do nothing. Hence the pro...
by seeds
Sun May 05, 2019 6:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?
Replies: 41
Views: 1589

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

The point is that if everyone on earth adopted the “Ramana model” wherein all they did was sit around in their underwear and offer vague and impractical advice such as that which you are attributing to Ramana above, then nothing would get done, and the gears of our societies would soon come to a sc...
by seeds
Sun May 05, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 3148

Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

_______ (This is an offshoot from an alternate thread.) My Satguru Ramana Maharshi spoke of remaining in the heart and not "going out" in awareness into thought and sensations. And apparently there were times when he felt that “going out” (like everybody else) to acquire food to keep his body alive ...
by seeds
Sat May 04, 2019 2:42 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?
Replies: 41
Views: 1589

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

My Satguru Ramana Maharshi spoke of remaining in the heart and not "going out" in awareness into thought and sensations. And apparently there were times when he felt that “going out” (like everybody else) to acquire food to keep his body alive was too much of a hindrance to his spiritual goals. Acc...
by seeds
Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:27 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Is having children the most selfish act on earth?
Replies: 22
Views: 725

Re: Is having children the most selfish act on earth?

if selfishness is gaining for one's self at some cost for another (without future compensation to balance), then the most selfish act is gaining entirely for one's self with no benefit whatsoever to the other, only harm. since appreciation for life or desire to live (and therefore everything else t...
by seeds
Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Missionary Killed on Remote Island: Discuss?
Replies: 54
Views: 2229

Re: Missionary Killed on Remote Island: Discuss?

:shock: And people wonder why there are atheists. :shock: another approach is christian universalism God wants everyone to be saved - that is in the Bible presumably, whatever God wants, God gets. In my neck of the woods (rural south) the prevailing beliefs are somewher between the 'traditional doc...
by seeds
Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Missionary Killed on Remote Island: Discuss?
Replies: 54
Views: 2229

Re: Missionary Killed on Remote Island: Discuss?

I have often wondered how they determine a difference between an isolated human dying before understanding anything about the gospel, and that of a toddler or an infant who dies before understanding the gospel. Yet (aside from a few extreme cases), most Christians assume that children who die befor...
by seeds
Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:39 pm
Forum: Articles in Philosophy Now
Topic: What is Panspiritism?
Replies: 101
Views: 2541

Re: What is Panspiritism?

Seeds wrote: Of course we can “know” what order is. I mean we are witnessing it in the simple reality of the highly ordered arrangement of the electrons that form the structure of the letters and words appearing on this screen (never mind the unfathomable precision of the movements of the planets, ...
by seeds
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:23 pm
Forum: Articles in Philosophy Now
Topic: What is Panspiritism?
Replies: 101
Views: 2541

Re: What is Panspiritism?

In reference to the quote by Dr Steve Taylor, I don’t think that idealism denies the reality of matter; it simply suggests that matter is composed of mindstuff. I think the problem lies in what the word “real” actually means. For an idealist I think that matter is less real than mind and is a creat...
by seeds
Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: Articles in Philosophy Now
Topic: What is Panspiritism?
Replies: 101
Views: 2541

Re: What is Panspiritism?

In addition, I believe the full attraction of panspiritism lies in the value it places on all phenomena. Whereas materialism denies the ultimate reality of mind, and idealism denies the ultimate reality of matter, panspiritism sees both as equally real and valuable. Whereas materialism sees the wor...