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by seeds
Wed May 08, 2019 3:11 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 2262

Re: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

So let me get this straight. In deference to Ramana, you personally think that the best thing that could ever happen to humanity is for everyone on the planet to... 1. Strip down to their underpants and assume the lotus position. 2. Eliminate all thought and sensations to the point of no longer bei...
by seeds
Tue May 07, 2019 3:56 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 2262

Re: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

Most kids with two working brain cells to rub together would consider that to be a problem (and rightly so) and try to do something about it. So what are we supposed to make of it? Integration of uncorrupted equanimity into daily activities requires a period of adjustment which customarily requires...
by seeds
Mon May 06, 2019 12:16 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 2262

Re: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

He was just a kid when the ants ate away at his legs. Most kids with two working brain cells to rub together would consider that to be a problem (and rightly so) and try to do something about it. So what are we supposed to make of it? After he was found and cared for by those with the eyes to see w...
by seeds
Sun May 05, 2019 9:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 2262

Re: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

Many Easterners are just really bad at logic. I think you can safely say that about many Westerners as well, but I get your point. Once they figure out the "True Self", they tend to go into this detached, antisocial, empty meditative state where they sit around all day and do nothing. Hence the pro...
by seeds
Sun May 05, 2019 6:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?
Replies: 41
Views: 1293

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

The point is that if everyone on earth adopted the “Ramana model” wherein all they did was sit around in their underwear and offer vague and impractical advice such as that which you are attributing to Ramana above, then nothing would get done, and the gears of our societies would soon come to a sc...
by seeds
Sun May 05, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.
Replies: 95
Views: 2262

Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.

_______ (This is an offshoot from an alternate thread.) My Satguru Ramana Maharshi spoke of remaining in the heart and not "going out" in awareness into thought and sensations. And apparently there were times when he felt that “going out” (like everybody else) to acquire food to keep his body alive ...
by seeds
Sat May 04, 2019 2:42 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?
Replies: 41
Views: 1293

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

My Satguru Ramana Maharshi spoke of remaining in the heart and not "going out" in awareness into thought and sensations. And apparently there were times when he felt that “going out” (like everybody else) to acquire food to keep his body alive was too much of a hindrance to his spiritual goals. Acc...
by seeds
Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:27 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Is having children the most selfish act on earth?
Replies: 22
Views: 534

Re: Is having children the most selfish act on earth?

if selfishness is gaining for one's self at some cost for another (without future compensation to balance), then the most selfish act is gaining entirely for one's self with no benefit whatsoever to the other, only harm. since appreciation for life or desire to live (and therefore everything else t...
by seeds
Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Missionary Killed on Remote Island: Discuss?
Replies: 54
Views: 1706

Re: Missionary Killed on Remote Island: Discuss?

:shock: And people wonder why there are atheists. :shock: another approach is christian universalism God wants everyone to be saved - that is in the Bible presumably, whatever God wants, God gets. In my neck of the woods (rural south) the prevailing beliefs are somewher between the 'traditional doc...
by seeds
Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Missionary Killed on Remote Island: Discuss?
Replies: 54
Views: 1706

Re: Missionary Killed on Remote Island: Discuss?

I have often wondered how they determine a difference between an isolated human dying before understanding anything about the gospel, and that of a toddler or an infant who dies before understanding the gospel. Yet (aside from a few extreme cases), most Christians assume that children who die befor...
by seeds
Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:39 pm
Forum: Articles in Philosophy Now
Topic: What is Panspiritism?
Replies: 40
Views: 967

Re: What is Panspiritism?

Seeds wrote: Of course we can “know” what order is. I mean we are witnessing it in the simple reality of the highly ordered arrangement of the electrons that form the structure of the letters and words appearing on this screen (never mind the unfathomable precision of the movements of the planets, ...
by seeds
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:23 pm
Forum: Articles in Philosophy Now
Topic: What is Panspiritism?
Replies: 40
Views: 967

Re: What is Panspiritism?

In reference to the quote by Dr Steve Taylor, I don’t think that idealism denies the reality of matter; it simply suggests that matter is composed of mindstuff. I think the problem lies in what the word “real” actually means. For an idealist I think that matter is less real than mind and is a creat...
by seeds
Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: Articles in Philosophy Now
Topic: What is Panspiritism?
Replies: 40
Views: 967

Re: What is Panspiritism?

In addition, I believe the full attraction of panspiritism lies in the value it places on all phenomena. Whereas materialism denies the ultimate reality of mind, and idealism denies the ultimate reality of matter, panspiritism sees both as equally real and valuable. Whereas materialism sees the wor...
by seeds
Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:01 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: These are major assumptions that make sense
Replies: 112
Views: 2667

Re: These are major assumptions that make sense

As I have already pointed out, one of the possible extinctions being discussed could come about as an unfortunate by-product of humans trying to improve their living conditions... ...while the other is a result of the worst (unforgivable) decision that humans could possibly make. That being said, i...
by seeds
Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: These are major assumptions that make sense
Replies: 112
Views: 2667

Re: These are major assumptions that make sense

As I have already pointed out, one of the possible extinctions being discussed could come about as an unfortunate by-product of humans trying to improve their living conditions... ...while the other is a result of the worst (unforgivable) decision that humans could possibly make. Still thinking lik...