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by clueless
Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:50 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

Very good! What I was wondering about was/is how spoken language ever got off the ground. I can imagine that "ugh?" meant "is dinner ready?" This is a bit like the chimp mirror experiment. How did the caveman make the connection between the primitive word he'd never before heard and the idea or thin...
by clueless
Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:26 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Is time continuous or discrete?
Replies: 3
Views: 1019

Re: Is time continuous or discrete?

In my opinion, continuous. I've never seen a discussion on this before, but for space, it is said to be discrete. If time were discrete, then what happens in-between? And how would it go back and forth between those points where it does exist? Here's a Wiki article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
by clueless
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:34 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Where is our universe located?
Replies: 13
Views: 2822

Re: Where is our universe located?

Good question. Doesn't the universe create its own space as it expands? Where was the singularity when the big bang occurred? When did the big bang occur? Neither of these questions makes any sense because time and space emerged with the bang. Pre-bang is nonsensical because it implies the passage o...
by clueless
Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:57 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

To RG1, Alpha, and others: Where do you think you are (perceive yourself to be) relative to what you see? I'm seated in my living room, watching television again. The set is directly in front of me, only a few feet away. To the right of the TV (stage left) is a cat curled up in a chair. Behind me is...
by clueless
Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:57 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

To RG1 and others: The brain performs a multitude of tasks (many simultaneously) and engages in a multitude of behaviors - it speaks (with the aid of the vocal apparatus which it controls); it smiles or frowns (with the aid of the facial muscles which it controls); it gestures; it nods the head; it ...
by clueless
Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:24 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

To Scott Mayers: In shaving myself, I'm simultaneously shaving that fellow in the mirror. Is it any wonder that when I notice that he has shaving cream on his forehead, I wipe it off for him. How do we know the chimp doesn't think he or his twin is actually in there behind the mirror surface? We do...
by clueless
Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:08 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

To Scott Mayers: In shaving myself, I'm simultaneously shaving that fellow in the mirror. Is it any wonder that when I notice that he has shaving cream on his forehead, I wipe it off for him. How do we know the chimp doesn't think he or his twin is actually in there behind the mirror surface? We don...
by clueless
Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:16 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

To RG1: What's wrong with "I experience the physical self; therefore, I exist."? I am the experiencer; what I'm experiencing is the physical body. Call me self or call me something else.

What leads us astray is imprecise language.
by clueless
Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:50 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

To alpha and others: In the declaration, "I'm aware of my physical self", who or what is professing the awareness, and in what sense is the physical self "mine"? Isn't the brain (which has many components) the organ of awareness? Without the brain, there is no awareness. Evidently, without just one ...
by clueless
Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:00 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

clueless (and others), "My cats evidently don't recognize themselves. Is this proof of lack of sufficient intelligence?" [clueless response earlier] I had a deaf cat and she learned to interpret mirrors because of this deficit. She recognized herself in the mirror and used it to interpret where I w...
by clueless
Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:14 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

What is it that one means when claiming to be “self-aware”? Is it simply the awareness (sensing, detection, and recognition) of self? If so, then what is this “self”? Is this “self” that physical body that can be seen (detected and recognized) in a mirror? So how is this any different than being aw...
by clueless
Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:38 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

You're right. What I meant to say is that attofishpi is suggesting that non-biological entities aren't capable of consciousness; further, that the brain's consciousness isn't attributable to its wiring or the result of its processing. Dont misquote me:- (red). "..further, that the brain's conscious...
by clueless
Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:14 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Philosophy of Mind
Replies: 104
Views: 33394

Re: Philosophy of Mind

To me...the mind has three states as it only has to deal with three things regarding its path through time. The past, the present and the future:- The past is a memory. The present is a process. The future is speculation..also a process. Interesting! If you look at an event record (such as an oscil...
by clueless
Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:12 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

Reply to Hobbes' Choice: Ipso Facto? Is that roughly equivalent to "By That Very Fact"? According to my dictionary, a dichotomy is: a division into two esp. mutually exclusive or contradictory groups or entities such as the dichotomy between theory and practice; also the process or practice of maki...
by clueless
Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: At what point do robots become self-aware?
Replies: 105
Views: 10593

Re: At what point do robots become self-aware?

Reply to Hobbes' Choice: Ipso Facto? Is that roughly equivalent to "By That Very Fact"? According to my dictionary, a dichotomy is: a division into two esp. mutually exclusive or contradictory groups or entities such as the dichotomy between theory and practice; also the process or practice of makin...