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by wtf
Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:20 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.
Replies: 46
Views: 1475

Re: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.

Strings are not Integers. Neither in Python (interpreted language) nor in C++ (compiled language). Completely missing the point of what I wrote. Missing every aspect, nuance, and subtlety of what I wrote, at every level of meaning . A display of obliviousness that literally precludes intelligent co...
by wtf
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:53 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.
Replies: 46
Views: 1475

Re: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.

https://repl.it/repls/BraveBlankEvaluations print('0000' == 1) # => False print(len('0000')) # => 4 print(type('0000')) # => <class 'str'> print(type(1)) # => <class 'int'> This shows an astonishing lack of understanding. Surely you know that Python is an interpreted language. That means that when ...
by wtf
Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:31 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.
Replies: 46
Views: 1475

Re: Numbers Grounded in Counting 0s, Thus Number/Math Has No Foundations.

commonsense wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:28 pm
Numbers are grounded in counting ones, not zeros. We count [1]’s. Zero counts as no [1]’s.
Why would it matter? Why couldn't I just count zeros?

0, 00, 000, 0000, 00000, ...

Works just as well as 1's, right?
by wtf
Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:48 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Counter-intuitive formulas?
Replies: 3
Views: 165

Re: Counter-intuitive formulas?

Speakpigeon wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:17 am
Are there propositional logic formulas, outside self-referential ones, whose validity or invalidity is often perceived as counter-intuitive?
EB
https://xkcd.com/179/
by wtf
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

I wonder why you insist I've made any error given that I never made any such claims in context of Turing's conception/definition? YOU brought that to the table. Not me. You made the claim that .999... will "never halt." By that (stupid) criterion NO real number is computable. Hence my observation t...
by wtf
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

The fact that you are talking about numbers (they don't exist!) and not alphabets , is only more evidence that you don't understand that Mathematics is just a formal language. Notation is all. I wonder why you won't address your error in claiming .999... is not a computable real number; and your to...
by wtf
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:40 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

Skepdick wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:24 pm
In the bin.
You totally misunderstand everything Turing said. It's pathetic. Flap your arms and throw insults if it makes you feel better.
by wtf
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:06 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

It is obvious then than sigma(n) = 0.99999999999999999... It is also obvious that sigma(∞) DOES NOT HALT Let me explain exactly the problem I have with your line of argument. It's not that you don't understand standard math. It's that you don't even understand computable math , which you claim to b...
by wtf
Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:55 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

You are using "..." in the definition of "...". Isn't that circular reasoning? No, since the ellipses are not the point at issue here. Surely you know that. I found this remark disingenuous because of that. Rather we are interested in the precise definition of decimal notation. If this site support...
by wtf
Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:03 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

.9999... goes on ad infinitum...get over your mystic religion. The proof is assumed because it cannot be seen in it totality. The proof cannot be seen in its totality. The proof that .999... = 1 can be seen in its totality in any calculus class; in any calculus textbook; on the Wiki page for the ge...
by wtf
Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:50 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

No, it is assumed. Everything you said in this post is incorrect so I won't bother to fix up your deliberately obfuscated markup. The moment you find yourself using the color tag, why not just use the standard quoting tags like everyone else? You would benefit greatly from reviewing your basic high...
by wtf
Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:34 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

If .999999999.... equals 1 does .0000....0001 = 0? No, the notation on the right is not defined. The notation on the left .999..., is defined as 9/10 + 9/100 + 9/1000 + ... which is a geometric series that sums to 1, as is proved in freshman calcuus the world over. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geo...
by wtf
Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:15 pm
Whatever is charted is rounded. If the number is truly charted, the line would slowly change because it would be dynamic.
Can you plot 1/3 = .3333... on the number line?

How about 1/2 = .4999999....?
by wtf
Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

Irrational numbers cannot be marked on a number line as that would make them rational and finite....they would have to be rounded and in a fixed postion. That's silly. Take a square of side 1. Its diagonal has length sqrt(2). That's a fixed, unchanging length of sqrt(2). You could translate the dia...
by wtf
Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:21 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
Replies: 201
Views: 4058

Re: 0d Lines and Circles

Ignore the red, I messed up and forgot you posted in read. Sorry, you are going to have to sort it out...I am using an ipad. It's all red. I never posted in red. YOU posted in red and I had to sort it out. I'll take a look at what you wrote but meanwhile the quote tags are very straightforward on t...