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- Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:17 pm
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
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Re: 0d Lines and Circles
Err no, I denied that the line is a set of 0d points. Take it up with Euclid. Or any modern mathematician. I can't argue this point with you. Did you miss high school math? The real line is composed of an infinite set of 0-dimensional points. You can make up your own math but you'll be denying all ...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:58 pm
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
- Views: 2991
Re: 0d Lines and Circles
Ehh.. Zero times anything is still zero, and the length of the unit is 1. However you simply can't create a 1-dimensional mathematical object from adding 0-dimensional mathematical objects. The saying that a line is 'composed' of points only means that wherever you look on the line, you can assign ...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:54 pm
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
- Views: 2991
Re: 0d Lines and Circles
Ehh.. Zero times anything is still zero, and the length of the unit is 1. However you simply can't create a 1-dimensional mathematical object from adding 0-dimensional mathematical objects. The saying that a line is 'composed' of points only means that wherever you look on the line, you can assign ...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:51 pm
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: Four pointed Triangles, the Case for an Irrational Triangle
- Replies: 9
- Views: 210
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:26 am
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: Four pointed Triangles, the Case for an Irrational Triangle
- Replies: 9
- Views: 210
Re: Four pointed Triangles, the Case for an Irrational Triangle
"I understand why you can believe the dot is not meaningful from a traditional stance. However I am not much one for tradition." It's not a dot, it's a mathematical point. It has no internal structure. If you feel otherwise that's your right, but that's not in accordance with usual math. And I'm afr...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:58 am
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
- Views: 2991
Re: 0d Lines and Circles
How do you account for the length of the unit interval then The unit interval is composed of zero length points and so it cannot ever be longer than zero That does not magically change just because there happens to be an infinite number of them The unit interval is the interval on the real line bet...
- Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:14 pm
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
- Views: 2991
Re: 0d Lines and Circles
How do you account for the length of the unit interval then?surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:42 pmYou cannot get one from many zero length points simply because there is an infinite number of them
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- Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:58 am
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: Four pointed Triangles, the Case for an Irrational Triangle
- Replies: 9
- Views: 210
Re: Four pointed Triangles, the Case for an Irrational Triangle
I'm not entirely sure what's significant about this in your mind. You can think about the situation in reverse. Start with any isosceles triangle. Any horizontal line between the vertex and the base defines an isosceles trapezoid; and if we imagine an infinite sequence of horizontal lines, each one ...
- Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:28 am
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: Four pointed Triangles, the Case for an Irrational Triangle
- Replies: 9
- Views: 210
Re: Four pointed Triangles, the Case for an Irrational Triangle
I understood that! Eod this is a special day indeed. You are stacking an endless sequence of similar trapezoids on top of each other, each one of smaller size than the one below. If the size (measured any way you like) happens to go to zero, then "at infinity" you'd conceptually have a point; that i...
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:29 pm
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
- Views: 2991
Re: 0d Lines and Circles
10. And you cannot respond to any of this, because you can't. I can't respond because it's incoherent nonsense. I did respond to surreptitious57 who believes 0 times anything must be 0, be it 0 times infinity, 0 times fish, 0 times the Mormon Tabernacle choir. I gave the counterexample that an infi...
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:59 pm
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
- Views: 2991
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:20 am
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
- Views: 2991
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:59 am
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
- Views: 2991
Re: 0d Lines and Circles
Anything multiplied by zero is zero since it cannot logically be anything else As what other possible answer is there to infinity times zero other than zero The fact that infinity is not a number is not relevant because the principle also applies to non numbers There is not a single thing that does...
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:35 am
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
- Views: 2991
Re: 0d Lines and Circles
if infinity could be understood as a number that is... -Imp What number is it being understood as? 6? Well then yes 0 times 6 is 0. But "infinity" is not a number. Now it's true that there are transfinite cardinals and ordinals, but none of them are called "infinity". If fish were a number then 0 t...
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:55 am
- Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
- Topic: 0d Lines and Circles
- Replies: 201
- Views: 2991
Re: 0d Lines and Circles
zero times infinity is zero No. if infinity could be understood as a number that is... -Imp What number is it being understood as? 6? Well then yes 0 times 6 is 0. But "infinity" is not a number. Now it's true that there are transfinite cardinals and ordinals, but none of them are called "infinity"...