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by wtf
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:39 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Beyond the Law of Noncontradiction
Replies: 82
Views: 1264

Re: Beyond the Law of Noncontradiction

Why bother. Whatever it says, it's opposite is also true. If you believe that nonsense, I'll take your word for it. I read the article twenty year ago. You won't read it and you already did read it. P and not-P. My point exactly. Thank you for so perfectly demonstrating the utility of constrained i...
by wtf
Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:58 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Beyond the Law of Noncontradiction
Replies: 82
Views: 1264

Re: Beyond the Law of Noncontradiction

anyone who denies the law of non-contradiction is not rational. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-paraconsistent/ Why bother. Whatever it says, it's opposite is also true. If you believe that nonsense, I'll take your word for it. Can't get more reputable than SEP. You should read the article...
by wtf
Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:25 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Beyond the Law of Noncontradiction
Replies: 82
Views: 1264

Re: Beyond the Law of Noncontradiction

RCSaunders wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:43 pm anyone who denies the law of non-contradiction is not rational.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logi ... onsistent/
by wtf
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:46 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Beyond the Law of Noncontradiction
Replies: 82
Views: 1264

Re: Beyond the Law of Noncontradiction

Speakpigeon wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:45 pm Trying to derive the law of contradiction from the material world isn't really a practical option.
We are spirits in the material world. And I am a material girl.
by wtf
Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:53 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuum
Replies: 105
Views: 2732

Re: Continuum

Concrete rocks are instances (of information). The abstract concept of a rock is a pattern (of information). The word "rock" itself is a representation (of information). It represents either an instance or a pattern (of information). Ok. Yes, but words can represent (point to?) concrete or abstract...
by wtf
Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:15 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuum
Replies: 105
Views: 2732

Re: Continuum

I don't think this position is useful within the context of our conversation. Mathematical objects are real like thoughts about rocks, not real like actual rocks. And to argue over which one is "more or less" real leads directly to Gödel ontological proof. Mathematical objects are abstract objects....
by wtf
Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:28 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuum
Replies: 105
Views: 2732

Re: Continuum

PeteJ wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:43 am All good. I see now why we were pulling in different directions.
No prob. We'll always have ...
PeteJ wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:56 amThere's so much nonsense on this site that your approach stands out.
That's the high point of my career on this site! Thank you kindly for that remark, regardless of whether you still agree!!
by wtf
Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:59 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuum
Replies: 105
Views: 2732

Re: Continuum

The problem may be that you're trying to drag me into mathematics ... This is the portion of the site devoted to the philosophy of math. You volunteered to be here. To be fair, you showed up in this thread talking about the mathematical continuum. If you had a deeper or different agenda, it would n...
by wtf
Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:39 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuum
Replies: 105
Views: 2732

Re: Continuum

R represents the set of real numbers. To use your prior context f(R) = 6. Ok thanks for clarifying. Exactly at 6. Since you discretised it. How so? Does the squaring function "discretize" 25 when you input 5? And where have you ever seen the concept of a function that inputs the reals and outputs t...
by wtf
Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:31 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuum
Replies: 105
Views: 2732

Re: Continuum

To me, everything in the universe is "real". My thoughts are "real". Your thoughts are "real". The conventional use of the word "real" (which implies that thoughts aren't "real") stems from philosophical dualism and it's a form of special pleading: I don't subscribe to it. I agree with you that tho...
by wtf
Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:16 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuum
Replies: 105
Views: 2732

Re: Continuum

I think I addressed this in my previous post, but my objections are coming (trivially) from having a function that can produce elements of a continuum. If R is the set of Real numbers and you have any function f, such that f(R) produces elements of the set, then conceptually the reals are discrete....
by wtf
Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:11 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuum
Replies: 105
Views: 2732

Re: Continuum

I think we are in agreement about that. @Skepdick, it frightens me to hear that you agree with anything I say. Isn't that the first time ever? I am happy to use the word "real" in the sense that the object we speak about exists in my head. How you apply any abstract model to practical purposes is n...
by wtf
Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:35 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuum
Replies: 105
Views: 2732

Re: Continuum

Thanks for your thoughtful post. There's so much nonsense on this site that your approach stands out. Thank you. But it's too long for me to deal with it all in one go. I will shorten it to two points in a moment. My response to this post is long and I hope you read it. But you need not reply to an...
by wtf
Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:22 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Continuum
Replies: 105
Views: 2732

Re: Continuum

@PeteJ, I've glanced at your site and clearly you have written a number of articles and you're thoughtful and serious. But at least based on your comments here and in my brief scan of your continuum paper, I detect a maddening vagueness and lack of specificity. You make generality after generality a...
by wtf
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:14 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Positive Numbers Move to Point 0
Replies: 4
Views: 1191

Re: Positive Numbers Move to Point 0

Yes, I think this is a fair summary of the Finkelgruber-Schnottburger hypothesis; but you'll need to address the Wiener-Schnitzl counter-argument, or you'll find yourself eating Schitt soup without any chopsticks. Don't forget the Cox-Zucker machine. Yes it's a real thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/...