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by Lacewing
Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:26 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 412
Views: 7816

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

… Nick, with the distortion and dishonesty in your responses (as is often your style), I don't know how you can honestly think of yourself as a man of truth. Truth is not so sloppy. You can't even represent the truth here in discussions on this forum, yet you CLAIM to speak of an even GREATER objec...
by Lacewing
Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:59 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 412
Views: 7816

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

This higher level must be rejected since to accept it denies secularism. Can you see how theists must reject anything outside of theism because accepting it would deny theism? :lol: I do not deny objective truth because it denies secularism -- I simply don't find it compelling. It doesn't make sens...
by Lacewing
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:11 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 412
Views: 7816

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

whatever example you gave me I'd show how the individual may have been caused to act by causal chains, causal circumstances, and natural laws. The only way someone can be more free than other animals is to use reason. "Self mastery of feelings" is a top rate example of the uses of reason. Okay, so ...
by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:58 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 412
Views: 7816

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

The whole problem with discussing feelings is that they are not simple and most people have no idea what they are or why we have them. I can certainly understand that feelings can be brought on by all kinds of things. Thanks for your response and the links you provided. I have practiced (throughout...
by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 412
Views: 7816

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Nick, you and I very rarely find an agreeable meeting place in these discussions. I've always thought we might be able to bridge that... but it's insightful to see how challenging and seemingly impossible it is at times. I think this dynamic between us demonstrates why there are such divisions in th...
by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:17 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 412
Views: 7816

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

I agree that all human types and people within these types What are the "types" you're referring to? Please explain. I also believe the universe and life within it has an OBJECTIVE purpose humanity as a whole has forgotten. The task for a seeker of truth with the help of great ideas within philosop...
by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The basic question of all philosophy is ?
Replies: 16
Views: 137

Re: The basic question of all philosophy is ?

Can the perceiving mind really know the absolute truth of reality ? I don't think it's just a matter of perceiving. I don't think there is an "absolute truth of reality". Is a perception. Such a concept sounds like a human idea of something ultimately static... and for what purpose? Also a percepti...
by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:56 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?
Replies: 17
Views: 224

Re: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?

Let's say they're less constrained if one decides to explore the boundaries. That is, less handicapped by preconceived or revealed paradigms. If one wants to explore the horizon one does so without knowing what's there or what awaits...a type of mental space travel to who knows where! Yes! And well...
by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:17 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Point Zero Tunneling and "Time" Mining
Replies: 78
Views: 833

Re: Point Zero Tunneling and "Time" Mining

Atheist philosophy is a contradiction in terms. I've not heard of atheist philosophy. What is that? Here are some definitions of philosophy. Nowhere is there any indication that philosophy must be classified as theist or atheist... so that's something foolish and/or dishonest that you're adding on ...
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The basic question of all philosophy is ?
Replies: 16
Views: 137

Re: The basic question of all philosophy is ?

Can the perceiving mind really know the absolute truth of reality? I personally say NO because a perceived thing is by nature dynamic and forever changing, therefore cannot be an absolute truth. I don't think it's just a matter of perceiving. I don't think there is an "absolute truth of reality". S...
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 412
Views: 7816

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Lacewing wrote: Situations do not hold power over a person's ability to choose how they feel. Bipolar disorder? Torture? Bereavement? Inebriation? Parturition? Winning the lottery? Going to school for the first time when you are five years old? Having a vision of the Virgin Mary? Acute appendicitis...
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:11 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?
Replies: 17
Views: 224

Re: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?

You can't even fathom spirituality THROUGHOUT ALL. Absurd theist! :lol: So what exactly is Pantheism\Panentheism to you if it is NOT "THROUGHOUT ALL"? THROUGHOUT ALL includes anything you might label "atheist". ALL is ALL -- it is not divided/exclusive as defined by your (or anyone's) superficial a...
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:22 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Point Zero Tunneling and "Time" Mining
Replies: 78
Views: 833

Re: Point Zero Tunneling and "Time" Mining

attofishpi wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:54 am
Ah... your dishonest childishness coming through again. If only you could demonstrate the wisdom you claim to have access to. But no, you only seem able to offer lame and evasive comments. So much grandiose pretense and imagination must be very entertaining for you!
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:10 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?
Replies: 17
Views: 224

Re: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?

I don't deal with 'spiritual atheist' waffle. A concept/label of your contorted creation based on the limits of your mind. I was speaking of natural spirituality that is not based on religious concepts... but you apparently don't know how to think without religious concepts. You can't even fathom s...
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:59 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 412
Views: 7816

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

feelings are not under our direct conscious control. So you don't think it's possible to encounter a situation and ask oneself, do I want to feel "this way" or "this way" about/within this situation? I can see how thinking and feeling are tied together -- but it appears to me that I have a choice a...