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by Greylorn Ell
Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:54 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Start with what you know, don't make shit up along the way.

You don't see the inherent circularity of being bound to Planck units and discreteness while "measuring", and the mistake of equating that with the universe, seeing it as the only conceivable. Of course it's circular. Welcome to the epistemic problem of the human condition. Measurement is how we ob...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:31 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Start with what you know, don't make shit up along the way.

Regarding understanding, can you explain why calculus does not apply, and cannot apply, to quantum physics? If not, you'll find the explanation in my book. You told me some months back that I'm not familiar with the problem and should read the book, but do you understand the problem yourself? Do yo...
by Greylorn Ell
Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:33 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

I accused you of not understanding the limits of your tools. For all tools have limits. Going beyond the limits of what your tools permit always comes with “caveat emptor”. And yet I am watching you making reckless claims well beyond the limits of what logic/mathematics permits. I gusss because you...
by Greylorn Ell
Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Start with what you know, don't make shit up along the way.

Logik, You jump into the most conventional belief system like a cheap slut on food stamps jumps into the bed of the first promising millionaire. Your name is a misnomer. You are not logical, no more so than the farcial Spock character on old Star Trek episodes-- you're a con man, like him. To the c...
by Greylorn Ell
Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

Well said, Atto! And thank you! Having verified the existence of at least two clear-thinking minds on this forum, I can proceed to put Russell's criterion to work, by hypothesizing the pre-existence of three spaces, each with only three absolutely simple properties; from which I can develop an alte...
by Greylorn Ell
Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:38 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Start with what you know, don't make shit up along the way.

But be forewarned. I believe in a Creator, but this is not the God of any established religion. You will find that a logician's disagreement with deities isn't on the grounds of religious opposition, but merely one of consistency. We are trapped in a causal mindset. We expect every cause to have an...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:39 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Start with what you know, don't make shit up along the way.

Cosmology is an example of where Occam's Razor should be used but is not used. They are working on multiple universe and single universe theories. The multiple universe theories are more complex and no more predictive than the single universe theories. But cosmologists spend most of their time on t...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:08 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

I know. Did not think it was worth mentioning. Russel's Razor is only relevant given identical predictive utility also. I am yet to see any two theories with identical domains of applicability which have identical predictive utility. If that were the case - they would be mathematically isomorphic. ...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:16 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

I know. Did not think it was worth mentioning. Russel's Razor is only relevant given identical predictive utility also. I am yet to see any two theories with identical domains of applicability which have identical predictive utility. If that were the case - they would be mathematically isomorphic. ...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:04 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

I don't understand how you can say Occam's Razor is stupid - less assumptions the better is just obvious - are you stupid? It is not "obvious". A theory with more assumptions that predicts accurately is objectively better than one with fewer assumptions that predicts incorrectly. Occam's Razor is o...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:07 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

Feel free to waste every one of mine, which you and your fellow philosophers have been doing for the last half century. Have any of you people read Mortimer Adler's "How to Read a Book," or Kuhn's "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions?" I'd guess that with a few exceptions you've been too busy w...
by Greylorn Ell
Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

Whenever possible, substitute constructions out of known entities for inferences to unknown entities. Translated-- Let's figure out how the universe began, and how it works, by using the real information, the physics, that we actually know about it instead of philosophical principles that are subje...
by Greylorn Ell
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:09 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

Arising_uk wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:35 am
Please spare us Beon theory again!
Here's a special plan just for you and other pinheads-- Inasmuch as you are not capable of understanding it, why not simply decline to peruse it? Duh? :? GL
by Greylorn Ell
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:46 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

I think this is a more forward thinking, practical manifestation perhaps knocking Occam's Razor off the top shelf, so to speak. In its effect, it comprehends what we know, and from that permits more metaphysical consideration of the possibilities rather that just stating, hey that's an assumption, ...
by Greylorn Ell
Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:08 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 121
Views: 2018

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

By example, I did not mean more of your obscure and meaningless theoretical horseshit. Produce a real, practical example, or go away and try to infect some other thread. -GL