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by Immanuel Can
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:24 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

From your reading, when do you imagine souls are created? We are not told. But I see no justification in presupposing any pre-existent state of the soul. I see no justification for supposing any existent state of the soul. Sure you do. You have one yourself. It's the locus of your intelligence and ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:23 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: What is tolerance?
Replies: 195
Views: 2681

Re: What is tolerance?

Walker wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:53 pm I figure that every age has its Gandhi...
Really? :shock:

What makes you think so?
by Immanuel Can
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:22 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

I'm sorry -- I don't understand this claim. It might be right, in some sense, but it's too vague. Can you clear it up for me? Morality, like free-will, is about the act..... Kant didn't think so. He thought it was about the process of making the decision. Aristotle didn't think so: he thought it wa...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:04 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: What is tolerance?
Replies: 195
Views: 2681

Re: What is tolerance?

No one knows. The purpose of the question is to rationally infer and show your work. In truth, almost all of the appeal to "justice" upon which so much relies today is parasitic on Lockean Protestant morality. Try it in Syria, or Cuba, or China, or animistic cultures, where that tradition...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:54 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Will Bouwman wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:41 am From your reading, when do you imagine souls are created?
We are not told. But I see no justification in presupposing any pre-existent state of the soul, in Pantheist fashion or any other way.
by Immanuel Can
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:19 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

None of this is arbitrary but founded no objective reality. If it's founded on no objective reality, then it IS arbitrary, by definition. But you also said that they are "not fabricated by men, nor socially engineered." So where do they come from, and why are we obligated to follow them? ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:26 am
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: What is tolerance?
Replies: 195
Views: 2681

Re: What is tolerance?

Because he was a great politician, do you think he would have used the same tactics of passive resistance if trying to separate from a culture untouched by the Age of Enlightenment, for instance, a culture intolerant of other religions? That's a good question that I don't know the answer to. No one...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:51 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Morality begins with the act. I'm sorry -- I don't understand this claim. It might be right, in some sense, but it's too vague. Can you clear it up for me? Moral behaviours are necessary, and are not fabricated by men, nor socially engineered. Okay; that means you're a moral objectivist. I can acce...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:40 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Age wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:12 pm Once again...
I'm sorry, Age...Given your history here, I just don't care enough about your opinion to be bothered.

Carry on. I know you will.
by Immanuel Can
Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:57 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Not that you would be brave enough to clarify here ... Sorry, Age...I prefer to have a discussion partner who exhibits some modicum of ability to reason, and some tiny spirit of self-awareness. And I'm sorry to say, that's just not you, apparently. You've made that very, very clear from our previou...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:54 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Anyway, back to your impact on eternity. Will your entry make any difference? Well, that question presupposes a misunderstanding of what salvation is. Salvation isn't just then ...it's already now . Jesus said: “Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, ha...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:12 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Anyway, back to your impact on eternity. Will your entry make any difference? Well, that question presupposes a misunderstanding of what salvation is. Salvation isn't just then ...it's already now . Jesus said: “Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, ha...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:47 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

It's not certain that any material substance exists at all, as any idealist will tell you. You don't take that seriously. If you did, you wouldn't be typing to me, because you'd think I was a mere figment of your imagining. ...you think idealism and solipsism are synonyms... I do not, nor does anyt...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:13 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Harbal wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:01 pm I just wanted to show the folly of trying to mix religion and reality.
Well, "religion" is something in which I have no interest, but reality is quite important. So you might have to take your case where it's more appropriate, I guess.
by Immanuel Can
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:32 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9644
Views: 846180

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

I'm quite satisfied with the quality of my logic, but I can see why you don't think much of it. 🙂 If you think there's such a thing as "my logic" or "your logic," as opposed to just "logic," then you don't know what real logic is. The idea is as absurd as saying, "...