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Let's start with something you can be quite sure you and I can agree is morally right, or something we can both agree is morally wrong. I'll totally let you pick it. The field is wide open to you. What will you pick? Charity? Slavery? Racism? Theft? Educating women? Foreign aid? Feeding the hungry?...

Harbal just say: “I give up, you’re right IC”. You’ll feel better and then there will be a base to build on. I’ll say it: I give up, IC. You’re right, IC. Except for being wrong about God being the basis of Objective Morality. Well, that's an empirical question. If God exists, then as the Supreme B...

All moraity is wonderfully subjective and most effective with the mitigation that enriches No "moraity" is subjective, actually. And you can test that for yourself. Just go looking for even one Subjectivist moral precept. Easy. You say "easy," but I don't see one. If it's "...

Christians believe all sorts of things it doesn't say in the bible. Definitely "Scotsman" stuff going on here. You know, there are specific criteria for Scotsmen. Firstly, they're male. They're not Scots men, if they're not men. Secondly, they're culturally and genetically Scottish. Beyon...

Then the question becomes, how to find it? But that's a second-stage question, so we begin with the debunking of Subjectivism, which cannot even get that far. I thought you had already debunked it to your own satisfaction. Just get on with explaining how objective moral truth is possible if you dar...

...very bizarre reasoning, Really? :shock: What's so "bizarre" about pointing out exactly what you know to be true yourself: that Subjectivism cannot rationalize even one moral precept? That seems pretty obvious to me, and surely doesn't require any sophistication of logic, let alone &quo...

No shack is on fire, except in your imagination. We can see that Subjectivism is indeed a "shack" a badly-constructed idea, and that it is indeed "on fire," since it falls apart at the first sign of logic. It can't even perform the most rudimentary functions of "morality.&q...

Are you referring to yourself and Alexis by "we"? I retract the "we". Perhaps you can't see it. But in that case, I've overestimated either your sagacity or your openness to arguments. I hope I have not. I think it's my gullibility you have overestimated. Apparently not. I've of...

We can see that Subjectivism is indeed a "shack" a badly-constructed idea, and that it is indeed "on fire," since it falls apart at the first sign of logic. It can't even perform the most rudimentary functions of "morality." "Subjectivism" refers to the philo...

No shack is on fire, except in your imagination. We can see that Subjectivism is indeed a "shack" Are you referring to yourself and Alexis by "we"? I retract the "we". Perhaps you can't see it. But in that case, I've overestimated either your sagacity or your openness ...

Mathematics is a language. Only Platonists think mathematical objects are real. Nobody said "Mathematical objects are real," so you'll have to take that up with somebody who thinks it. What was said was simply that mathematics has a highly-applicable correspondence to the real world (most...

You are very determined to drive this message home, aren't you? 🙂 I think it's a public service to point it out. After all, if somebody is trying to live in a shack that's on fire, wouldn't you want to at least tell them they'd better leave it? Seems fair. 8) No shack is on fire, except in your ima...

Well, I happen to think the most likely explanation of the sequential phenomena that give the appearance of causality is some sequence of causally related, broadly speaking mechanical events. Right. And that sequence has to have had a starting point, because an infinite regress is mathematically an...

Well, I happen to think the most likely explanation of the sequential phenomena that give the appearance of causality is some sequence of causally related, broadly speaking mechanical events. Right. And that sequence has to have had a starting point, because an infinite regress is mathematically an...

I'm not a Christian, so I have to make my own arrangements. I know. But what is obvious is that for Subjectivists, the word "morality" cannot possibly have any content. It just means, "whatever I feel." And that is not morally commendable: neither others, nor even you can say th...