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Anyway, back to your impact on eternity. Will your entry make any difference? Well, that question presupposes a misunderstanding of what salvation is. Salvation isn't just then ...it's already now . Jesus said: “Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, ha...

It's not certain that any material substance exists at all, as any idealist will tell you. You don't take that seriously. If you did, you wouldn't be typing to me, because you'd think I was a mere figment of your imagining. ...you think idealism and solipsism are synonyms... I do not, nor does anyt...

Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:01 pm I just wanted to show the folly of trying to mix religion and reality.

Well, "religion" is something in which I have no interest, but reality is quite important. So you might have to take your case where it's more appropriate, I guess.

I'm quite satisfied with the quality of my logic, but I can see why you don't think much of it. 🙂 If you think there's such a thing as "my logic" or "your logic," as opposed to just "logic," then you don't know what real logic is. The idea is as absurd as saying, "...

No, I'm happy to be judged on what I've already said on the matter. "Happy" or not, what should be quite clear to you is that you're not being logical. But okay; if being "happy" is the goal, I'll take your word for it that you've arrived. I'm quite satisfied with the quality of...

As time is the interval between two points, and points are features of the material world, when there is no material substance in existence then there is no such thing as time. It's not certain that any material substance exists at all, as any idealist will tell you. You don't take that seriously. ...

Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:43 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:33 pm Give it a try. You'll see.

No, I'm happy to be judged on what I've already said on the matter.

"Happy" or not, what should be quite clear to you is that you're not being logical. But okay; if being "happy" is the goal, I'll take your word for it that you've arrived.

Okay, so God didn't create a predetermined universe, and you say nothing else could have done it, so we are left with what I suspected all along. God doesn't know what the future will be,... That doesn't follow. "Know" and "make happen" or "predetermine" are different ...

...what do you think time is? Well, it has different definitions. What sort are you looking for? You could say it's the interval in traversing between two points. That's a technical and geometric definition. You could say it's a measure of the rate of entropy. That would be a scientific one. You co...

But that isn't what I've been saying, and I have gone to great lengths to make that clear. God's knowing means that things must be predetermined, but I'm not saying they have been predetermined by God. And yet, that just creates a regression problem. If there's something prior to God, something cap...

So your belief that God's knowing means that He's predetermined everything is wrong. But that isn't what I've been saying, and I have gone to great lengths to make that clear. God's knowing means that things must be predetermined, but I'm not saying they have been predetermined by God. And yet, tha...

That's not an argument. :? My argument is simple: one can't make a valid syllogism that supposes what you're supposing: namely, that "doing" and "knowing" are entailed in each other. How have you arrived at the conclusion that I am supposing that? :? Because unless it's true, th...

It cannot be both the case that God knows everything I will do, and that I have free will; those two things contradict each other. No, because "what I will do" is about "doing," and what "God knows" is about "knowing." That's not an argument. :? My argument i...

A person can most definitely predict without knowing, there is an entire gambling industry predicated on exactly that. If his prediction were ever to be 100% guaranteed to be correct every time, as God's is, then it's certainly a form of knowing. There would be no important distinction between know...

My point is that God could only know the future if the future was fixed, but I'm not saying God fixed it. Then what are you saying? Because then you're the existence of some being you're referring to as "god" but definitely isn't. That doesn't add up. I can't work out what that is suppose...