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Our moral opinions, particularly strongly held ones, feel self evidently true. It is only when we analyse the matter that it becomes clear that morality is just human sentiment, and I don't think that most people analyse the matter. Right. But sentiment doesn't stand the test. "I feel I don't ...

Even so, I think I will follow my whims, just in case they turn out to be objectively true. 🙂 That's what most people seem to do...to say they disbelieve in objective moral truths, and that morality is all subjective, but then act as if their own beliefs are mostly objectively true anyway. 8) I don...

So the question is, do we follow our own arbitrary whims, or those of a fictitious god? 🤔 If He's fictitious, it doesn't matter what you follow. There's no obligation to follow anything...not even your own whims. Even so, I think I will follow my whims, just in case they turn out to be objectively ...

Even the inventor of a subjective axiom is not morally obligated to follow it. So it isn't, in any intelligible sense at all, a "moral" edict. It's simply an arbitrary whim...a twinge. So the question is, do we follow our own arbitrary whims, or those of a fictitious god? 🤔 If He's fictit...

For objective morality, your agreement is not required. Moral truth will proceed, regardless of you. Proceed to be ignored by those who don't happen to agree with it, and who may even have an alternative objective morality of their own, you mean? Well, they can ignore the truth, it's true...and alw...

As far as other people are concerned, you and I are in exactly the same position; we express our views, and they will either agree or disagree, and the mere fact that you might tell them you are speaking objective truth will make not a jot of difference. Unless it IS objective. And since we know th...

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 7:34 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 7:12 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 10:23 am No one can make you reasonable.

Ironic. That's exactly why I don't bother with you...you're just never rational, it seems.

That's rich coming from someone who believes the Bible is literal truth.

Well, we're going to see about that.

That applies to anyone without authority of some kind. My comment actually has zero to do with authority. It has to do with rationality. Your Subjectivism will not rationalize any explanation to the effect that anybody else should be concerned about what you think. That's definitional, since you be...

Age wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 10:23 am No one can make you reasonable.

Ironic. That's exactly why I don't bother with you...you're just never rational, it seems.

You've required us to assume that morality is subjective, and that having any authority behind morality makes it somehow not moral. But that's your key weakness: you need to prove those suppositions, not just to tell us to assume them, and then build your case out of them. Good luck with that. I've...

You've required us to assume that morality is subjective, and that having any authority behind morality makes it somehow not moral. But that's your key weakness: you need to prove those suppositions, not just to tell us to assume them, and then build your case out of them. Good luck with that. I've...

And what you say God knows about right or wrong has zero impact on what I think is right or wrong. Nobody has to be concerned about what you think is right or wrong -- remember? That applies to anyone without authority of some kind. My comment actually has zero to do with authority. It has to do wi...

Age wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:38 am Why are you not able to?

Able. Just not interested in you. Sorry.

Are you sure only one interpretation of who I am is "right"? Whether it is or not will have zero impact on who Gary Childress actually, objectively is. If I'm wrong in my opinion, the fault lies with me, not with the objective truth about Gary. OK. So who am I "objectively"? I d...

Whether you "think" X or Y is right or wrong has zero impact on what God knows is actually right or wrong in a given situation. And what you say God knows about right or wrong has zero impact on what I think is right or wrong. Nobody has to be concerned about what you think is right or wr...