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by Immanuel Can
Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:04 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 262
Views: 3450

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

Yes, but these similarities don't justify the assertion that political extremism is always a left thing. It obviously isn't! Quite true. But the extreme Right looks rather different from the version the Left would like us to adopt. They're not Fascists; they're anarchists, nihilists, Randians, open...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:51 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9264
Views: 748412

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Yes, with myself as the arbiter. What choice would I have? You have denied me a basis. :( I didn't. I believe there is a basis. You denied it to yourself, without realizing you did it. Oh dear, how careless of me. I'd better reinstate it immediately. You never stated any basis in the first place. Y...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:43 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9264
Views: 748412

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

No problem, I would just speak out against it without having the basis. Then you'd condemn something arbitrarily? Yes, with myself as the arbiter. Without any basis? What choice would I have? You have denied me a basis. :( I didn't. I believe there is a basis. You denied it to yourself, without rea...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:37 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9264
Views: 748412

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

"Morally reliable" seems a strange term; I'm not quite sure what it could mean. Oh, it's very simple: I only mean that you would have to think that those three were just as "good" (whatever you take that term to mean) at knowing and acting in ways that are "moral" as a...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:24 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9264
Views: 748412

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

I assume there's more to Christianity than just accepting mercy. Is it not the case that a Christian must proclaim Jesus Christ to be their savior? And if so, how does one know if Christ is his savior or else the one condemning him for not believing in him. It seems to me that one must also believe...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:23 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 262
Views: 3450

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

...whether he was all that powerful doesn't make much difference. It actually does. If nobody's following him, then we really don't need to worry about whatever he thinks. So there's only 3 or 4 people in the world whos views matter enough to bother knowing whether they are conservatives, moderates...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:55 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 262
Views: 3450

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

Mike Pence is quite a traditionalist is he not? I don't know. Would you say he is? He's certainly never been an important public figure, and he's not now, in spite of having been VP. That's a role for somebody not very serious, traditionally...which is why it was Biden's role under Obama, and why i...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:49 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9264
Views: 748412

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Well, if the choice is eternal torment or else mercy, what choice do I really have? It's like asking a person if they'd like to be hit with a baseball bat or not hit with a baseball bat. I've had the torment thing before in life and it kind of sucks. And yet, not everybody has your common sense. So...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:08 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 262
Views: 3450

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

Mike Pence is quite a traditionalist is he not? I don't know. Would you say he is? He's certainly never been an important public figure, and he's not now, in spite of having been VP. That's a role for somebody not very serious, traditionally...which is why it was Biden's role under Obama, and why i...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:05 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9264
Views: 748412

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

You, me, the man next door, God; whoever is involved in making the decision. That's no good, unless you want to accept that Hitler, Stalin and Mao are just as morally reliable as you and I are. "Morally reliable" seems a strange term; I'm not quite sure what it could mean. Oh, it's very s...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:50 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 262
Views: 3450

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

I raised this thread for the purpose of discussing conservativism vs radicalism not to have yet another left v right opinion-fest. There are conservative traditionalist pigeons and radical reformist hawks perched on every branch of the political tree. I don't really see that. When I ask people to i...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:45 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 262
Views: 3450

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

…So the whole Fascism-Communism struggle is a family fight: two Collectivist Totalitarian systems fighting it out to see which form of Collectivist Totalitarianism will win. And their true opposites are democracy, liberalism, individualism, human rights, free markets, and so on. Yes, but these simi...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:20 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 262
Views: 3450

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

Consequently, "Cultural Marxism" is perhaps the most appropriate and polite term we could use for them. Culture is the lynchpin of their current activities. Yes, there is a left phenomenon that is appropriately called so; but when "cultural marxism" is used to refer to the conte...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:01 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9264
Views: 748412

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

It's not a question of its working. It is, because your answer doesn't "work" as a logical statement. Consequences and intention are very different and sometimes even oppositional touchstones for working out what is moral. Intentions are always about producing consequences. Yes, they are:...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:32 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9264
Views: 748412

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Are you all shook up over the ante-diluvians, Gary? I wouldn't waste your tears: I think they have enough water already. :wink: Do you really think that your God killing almost the entire human race is material for a joke? Given who they were, it's cause for celebration. Would we really want unrele...