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I’m a situational objectivist. That won't work. If it's "situational," then you're in no position to tell anybody about their "position," or what their moral "position" on it should be. Why would anyone want to be in a position to tell anyone what their moral position ...

I’m a situational objectivist. That won't work. If it's "situational," then you're in no position to tell anybody about their "position," or what their moral "position" on it should be. Unless I am obliged to tell others what to believe or think, it works just fine. If...

Of course I have a way of knowing. We all know that stealing is a moral issue, so if I have feelings about stealing, I know I have feelings about a moral issue. The thief has different feelings. How do we know, given Subjectivism, whose feelings are right? Well each thinks they are right, just like...

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:39 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:32 amHow do we know, given Subjectivism, whose feelings are right?

How do you know how you currently interpret your Bible is right?

I'm not sure how that question relates to Subjective Morality. Maybe you'll explain.

Because if one person subjectively thinks that stealing is morally wrong and another person subjectively thinks stealing is morally right, there is no way to determine who is correct. Nicely and concisely put. So if one person objectively thinks that stealing is morally wrong, and another person su...

That doesn't answer the question. If my moral feelings motivate my actions, then my moral function is working, how can you deny the logic of that? Because you have no way of knowing if it's even "moral." Subjectivism can't reveal that to you. Of course I have a way of knowing. We all know...

My argument is that Subjectivism doesn't work at all, If a person subjectively thinks that stealing is morally wrong, and that disinclines him from stealing, why do you describe that as not working? I think your idea of working morality is the sort that would enable you, for example, to tell others...

If a person subjectively thinks that stealing is morally wrong, and that disinclines him from stealing, why do you describe that as not working? Yes. Because he has no idea why he has that twinge. And if it's just a twinge, he has no justification to trust it at all...anymore than a twinge of hunge...

My argument is that Subjectivism doesn't work at all, If a person subjectively thinks that stealing is morally wrong, and that disinclines him from stealing, why do you describe that as not working? Yes. Because he has no idea why he has that twinge. And if it's just a twinge, he has no justificati...

Therefore after 20k+ comments, your best argument seems to be that morality can't be subjective, because only objective morality can be morality. :lol: You're not reading. My argument is that Subjectivism doesn't work at all, even on its own terms. And that's regardless of whether or not objective ...

Okay, give me some relevant objective moral facts on which to base a "proper" moral assessment of Trump. That's not my concern. In other words, you can't. No. "It's not my concern" means I'm pointing out a fact about Subjectivism, not about politics. You have said absolutely not...

"Jews must be exterminated" was immoral according to most people, and moral according to that group of Nazis. Right. So was it moral or immoral? We can't say. If the "person" refused to kill on moral grounds, then she was immoral according to the Nazi group and moral according t...

It's about group morals, if a group agrees on them. Or personal morals. Then if the "group" of Nazis says, "Jews must be exterminated," that's "moral"? :shock: Or even if a "person" does? :shock: And what if the "group" tells the "person" ...

But you are a hypocrite for overlooking Trump's deplorable character just because he promised the religious right he would do something about abortion. Well, first of all, I'm not "overlooking" anything. I have no particular affinity or concern with Trump. He's a candidate in a country I ...

Look back to my earlier post where I provided a list of reasons why I think Trump is amoral and/or narcissistic. I cannot find a comment from you following the list I provided. That's because if that's just a subjective list, then it's inconsequential. However, if it's objectively true that voting ...