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by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:52 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 743797

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

I agree. Morality is not about what one man thinks/wants/feels. It's performed in respect to other people. We might even argue (and I would) that we can have other kinds of beings that "count" ethically. For example, many people believe in the "ethical treatment of animals," or ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:22 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 246
Views: 3123

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

But you're cool with the workers forming unions at least, right? C'mon man u gotta give me sumthin. Today's Socialists now hate the unions: haven't you heard? They're all "deplorables" and "rednecks," they want us to think. The new proponents of Socialism (for us only, mind you,...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:07 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 246
Views: 3123

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

You are right only if socialism is equated with (Soviet-style) communism. I'm completely right. There's not a single case of Socialism being the regnant economic plan, and there not being death and economic disaster. But if you think otherwise, just name this Socialist success story. Not all social...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:27 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 743797

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

What do you mean by "genuinely moral"? Well, when we ask somebody if what they want to do is "moral," we don't mean "practical," or "popular," or "convenient," or "desirable," or "lucrative," or whatever. We mean something quite ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:49 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 743797

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

can morality be objective if there is no god? ChatGPT Yes, morality can be considered objective even in the absence of a belief in God. Many philosophical frameworks propose objective morality without relying on divine authority. Here are some ways in which morality can be considered objective with...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:47 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 743797

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

But I throw down the challenge: I do not think you can present a convincing argument for the existence of objective moral truth. Well, let's do it. But let me ask you this, so I know what my task is. What do you regard as the necessary criteria for proving that something is genuinely "moral&qu...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:08 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Moral Compass
Replies: 262
Views: 11212

Re: Moral Compass

Once again, “Heat death of the universe” has not been proven, Entropy has. It's arguably the most well-substantiated physical law we know. And the deduction is very simple: if the universe is entropic, then it means that it had to have a beginning point, and it will have an end point. The end point...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:33 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 743797

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

I've noticed that, despite my best efforts, you won't be drawn into defending or justifying your claims about objective moral truth. What you've noticed is that I didn't bother with the "red herrings." :wink: That's still rather unfair of you, as I have been dealing with all your red herr...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:42 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 743797

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

I've noticed that, despite my best efforts, you won't be drawn into defending or justifying your claims about objective moral truth. What you've noticed is that I didn't bother with the "red herrings." :wink: The subject was your own morality and Subjectivism. What you were attempting was...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:41 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 743797

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

You might not like it, but there is no alternative. Well, that's your assumption, I realize. I don't share it, but I believe that's what you think. However, if you think it, what you should really be is a nihilist. I think it's for me to decide what I should be in that respect. Absolutely. But the ...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:55 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 743797

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Well I can easily arrive at the subjective opinion that cruelty is morally wrong; in fact, I can't avoid arriving at it. You could, though. And you could change your mind in the next five minutes, and there'd be no basis for you even to feel sorry about it, if you did. And you couldn't find a reaso...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:24 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 743797

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

So could you just as easily enjoy the pointless suffering of others. Not and be moral. I would be objectively a bad person, if I did that. I can freely recognize that, because that's what the objective moral fact is: those who cause "pointless suffering" are cruel. Well I can easily arriv...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:21 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9236
Views: 743797

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

If that's what you really think, I suppose I will just have to accept it. It's actually not what I think; it's what subjectivism entails. I think subjectivism is wrong, of course. But the fact is that I have moral opinions (opinions about moral issues), and they influence my behaviour. This is exac...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:12 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 246
Views: 3123

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

Sure. And in parallel would you be in favor of creating a rule that businesses cannot prevent workers from joining a union, or retaliate on people who do or collude with government or other businesses or conspire to exploit their members in any way? You want to allow unions to collude with governme...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:39 am
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: British Values
Replies: 68
Views: 641

Re: British Values

Gary Childress wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:31 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:55 am
RWStanding wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:06 am As with social services, such as medical and dentistry currently in the news, which should be for absolutely everyone as needed and available, with no private elite.
Who pays the doctor and the dentist?
Tax payers I would imagine.
That would be you.