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I can't speak for anyone else, but my moral sensibilities tell me that there's something not right about having a lying scumbag running a country. :| That may change. And if it does, Trump will become the moral choice, because subjectively, It won't change, I can promise you that, No, you can't. Yo...

...you ignore this part... I ignore most of what you say, because most of it is absurd twaddle, actually. Now, show that it can inform just one person of one moral thing. All that my assessment here "informs" is this: that in regard to either moral objectivism or moral subjectivism, indiv...

I don't know that it can teach you anything. Let's suppose it can. Or let's suppose I'm impossible, but you are a moral agent. What can Subjectivism teach you about morality? It doesn't teach me anything, it guides my conduct. For example, it prohibits my going onto internet forums and lying about ...

Moral subjectivism is, in my view, no less embodied existentially in dasein. If you're going to talk more 💩, we're not going to get anywhere. :lol: What you do here basically is to assume that moral subjectivism must be wrong... Nope. I'm agreeing to accept, for argument's sake, the premise offered...

TRump was handcuffed by COVID last time. But you forget ... I'm not "forgetting" anything. I'm just asking how Moral Subjectivism can tell anybody anything about Trump, or anyone else, for that matter. I 'm talking about your factual errors. You forget. Facts are objective...values are su...

TRump was handcuffed by COVID last time. But you forget ... I'm not "forgetting" anything. I'm just asking how Moral Subjectivism can tell anybody anything about Trump, or anyone else, for that matter. I can't speak for anyone else, but my moral sensibilities tell me that there's somethin...

It has you in a bit of a flap, by the look of it. 🙂 :lol: Far from it. But I repeat the question: what can Moral Subjectivism teach us about morality? Can you name even one thing? I don't know that it can teach you anything. Let's suppose it can. Or let's suppose I'm impossible, but you are a moral...

Part of the lack of agreement between us is in my experience "morals" are HOW folks make behavioral decisions and you are promoting the idea that "morals" should determine WHAT folks choose to do behaviourally. I'm not even demanding so much...although it's true, of course. I'm ...

I have to say, guys, I'm amused by the nervousness. And I find it quite funny that Dem supporters actually think people should be all anxious and in knots about a possible second Trump term. If Trump does essentially what he did the last time in office, I'd say you have nothing to worry about. Rath...

Here's the point: what can Moral Subjectivism, even if we took it to be entirely true, teach anybody? Unless, of course, this is the point: what can Moral Objectivism teach anybody? We're supposing (contrary to truth, of course, but for the sake of the argument) that Moral Objectivism isn't true. S...

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:48 pm

What does Moral Subjectivism have?

It has you in a bit of a flap, by the look of it.

Far from it. But I repeat the question: what can Moral Subjectivism teach us about morality? Can you name even one thing?

Was my response to you not worthy of a comment from you? Your entire question in reply to my post was included above. My response is also included above. What other "response" did you have in mind? :shock: Look back to my earlier post where I provided a list of reasons why I think Trump i...

After 20k+ comments, his best argument seems to be that morality can't be subjective, because only objective morality can be morality. No. The argument is that Moral Subjectivism fails to deliver any information at all. It fails on its own two legs, so to speak, and needs no input from Objectivism ...

But the "we" you speak of seem to be very few; at least on this forum. Agreed. Most here seem to be stupified by the smoke-and-mirrors of Subjectivism. That's because they WANT to believe that there's an alternative "morality" to Objectivism, and they WANT to believe they have n...

After 20k+ comments, his best argument seems to be that morality can't be subjective, because only objective morality can be morality. No. The argument is that Moral Subjectivism fails to deliver any information at all. It fails on its own two legs, so to speak, and needs no input from Objectivism ...