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by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:51 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9247
Views: 747139

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

"They deserved it," eh? Certainly. In the end, we all get what we deserve. That's what justice really is: it's when you get just what you've earned. That's why the Bible says, "The wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord." Y...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:14 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9247
Views: 747139

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Well genocide and drowning just about everyone on Earth aren't exactly any better than abortion and sex slavery. Are you all shook up over the ante-diluvians, Gary? I wouldn't waste your tears: I think they have enough water already. :wink: If you were to read about that, you'd find out why that wa...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:49 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9247
Views: 747139

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Does the fact that there are passages in the Bible which seem morally repugnant to many modern ears not tell us that human beings have an innate sense of right and wrong ourselves, independent of any God? Does the fact that women in our modern society slaughter more babies every year than Hitler ev...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:45 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 248
Views: 3191

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

James Lindsay puts this paradox extremely well. He says, "Fascism is the right hand of the Left, just as Communism is the left hand of the Left." They are both species of Collectivist Totalitarianism. Lindsay's statement implies that totalitarian extremism always belongs to and emerges fr...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:34 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 248
Views: 3191

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

The Righties love to use "cultural marxism" as a pejorative propaganda term, but it can also be used purely descriptively by politologists. Well, it's apt. Old-style Marxism, now called by the Neo-Marxists "crude Marxism," was centered on class-struggle. But that's failed. The N...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:29 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9247
Views: 747139

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

How do we know they are wrong? Well, for one thing, all of these ethical frameworks listed disagree in pretty profound ways. They begin with different suppositions about what the basic moral axiom might be, and very often, end with different conclusions. What's lacking is a meta-ethical way to arbi...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:21 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9247
Views: 747139

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

The moral value of a decision or act comes from the intention behind it and the consequences of it, That's not going to work. The "intention" and the actual "consequences" are notoriously sometimes different. It's like the old Kant-Mill controversy: Kant thinks motivations are e...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:03 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Moral Compass
Replies: 263
Views: 11253

Re: Moral Compass

Janoah wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:08 pm
Do you agree that matter follows natural Law?
Sure.
Thanks, that's good.
Entropy is natural law. Entropy proves that the universe is not eternal, either in the past or in the future. So it turns out that it is your view, not mine, that denies natural law.
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:52 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9247
Views: 747139

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

I agree. Morality is not about what one man thinks/wants/feels. It's performed in respect to other people. We might even argue (and I would) that we can have other kinds of beings that "count" ethically. For example, many people believe in the "ethical treatment of animals," or ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:22 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 248
Views: 3191

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

But you're cool with the workers forming unions at least, right? C'mon man u gotta give me sumthin. Today's Socialists now hate the unions: haven't you heard? They're all "deplorables" and "rednecks," they want us to think. The new proponents of Socialism (for us only, mind you,...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:07 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?
Replies: 248
Views: 3191

Re: Is Conservatism just NeoTraditionalism these days?

You are right only if socialism is equated with (Soviet-style) communism. I'm completely right. There's not a single case of Socialism being the regnant economic plan, and there not being death and economic disaster. But if you think otherwise, just name this Socialist success story. Not all social...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:27 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9247
Views: 747139

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

What do you mean by "genuinely moral"? Well, when we ask somebody if what they want to do is "moral," we don't mean "practical," or "popular," or "convenient," or "desirable," or "lucrative," or whatever. We mean something quite ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:49 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9247
Views: 747139

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

can morality be objective if there is no god? ChatGPT Yes, morality can be considered objective even in the absence of a belief in God. Many philosophical frameworks propose objective morality without relying on divine authority. Here are some ways in which morality can be considered objective with...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:47 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9247
Views: 747139

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

But I throw down the challenge: I do not think you can present a convincing argument for the existence of objective moral truth. Well, let's do it. But let me ask you this, so I know what my task is. What do you regard as the necessary criteria for proving that something is genuinely "moral&qu...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:08 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Moral Compass
Replies: 263
Views: 11253

Re: Moral Compass

Once again, “Heat death of the universe” has not been proven, Entropy has. It's arguably the most well-substantiated physical law we know. And the deduction is very simple: if the universe is entropic, then it means that it had to have a beginning point, and it will have an end point. The end point...