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by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight Part 2
Replies: 178
Views: 2376

Re: Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight Part 2

VVilliam wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:09 pm It has not been shown that any religious view is true...
That's what you think, I understand.

And if the sum of knowledge were what you know, you might have a case. But apparently, there are things you don't know.
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "In the beginning God created ...."
Replies: 318
Views: 3084

Re: "In the beginning God created ...."

the Daughter Churches Christianity is not a "daughter" of Catholicism. Christianity existed long before the Romans ever got involved with it. Wrong. Actually, if you think about it, it HAS to be right. Christianity started with Jesus Christ. Indeed it was the Romans who first coined the label "Chri...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:29 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight Part 2
Replies: 178
Views: 2376

Re: Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight Part 2

Dontaskme wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:00 pm I think people create religion to explain things they can't.
I think that's sometimes right. It has to be, given the proliferation of 'religious' ideas out there, many of which contradict.

But if there is any 'religious' view that is truthful, then it's not true in all cases.
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:51 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "In the beginning God created ...."
Replies: 318
Views: 3084

Re: "In the beginning God created ...."

VVilliam wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:47 pm the Daughter Churches
Christianity is not a "daughter" of Catholicism. Christianity existed long before the Romans ever got involved with it.
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:44 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "In the beginning God created ...."
Replies: 318
Views: 3084

Re: "In the beginning God created ...."

VVilliam wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:28 pm ...what the Romans produced which became canon is arguable false.
Your criticism is of the Roman Catholics. It may be justified in regard to them...I would let them speak for themselves on that. It floats no boats anywhere else.
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:20 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "In the beginning God created ...."
Replies: 318
Views: 3084

Re: "In the beginning God created ...."

VVilliam wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:17 pm The Mother Church
The so-called "Mother Church" isn't. It's what the Catholic Church calls itself, but the Romans were actually vigorously persecuting the early Church until Constantine, in the 4th Century. It was only then that Romanism began.
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:43 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "In the beginning God created ...."
Replies: 318
Views: 3084

Re: "In the beginning God created ...."

Protestantism still argues that "God" cannot speak through any other means than scripture to anybody who is humble, correctable and receptive, according to his or her need. Actually, that's not true either. Protestantism holds that there are different forms and ways in which God reveals Himself. It...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:50 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The tree of knowledge
Replies: 164
Views: 1565

Re: The tree of knowledge

Well as far as I am aware, I have absolutely no concrete evidence or proof, same thing, of any other aware sentient creature higher than what is seemingly human awareness. I see no other source of my own knowledge than it coming from absolutely nowhere. That might mean there IS none, it's true. But...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight Part 2
Replies: 178
Views: 2376

Re: Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight Part 2

As long as you are happy with your findings then what more is there to find or see. Oh, plenty. I think we both know there are many things that people do to make themselves "happy" that are not at all good things. That's not what I would say, ... It's pretty obvious. ...we cannot know for sure that...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:44 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "In the beginning God created ...."
Replies: 318
Views: 3084

Re: "In the beginning God created ...."

Was it not the Catholic Church that chose what became scripture? The Catholic Church did not exist prior to 312 AD, at the very earliest. The Scriptures definitely predate that. So whatever the Catholic Church may have decided, it was ex post facto , at the very best. Then has your interpretation o...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:19 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "In the beginning God created ...."
Replies: 318
Views: 3084

Re: "In the beginning God created ...."

You say: it must be understood as meaning "compared to the love one gives to God," Isn't "it must be understood as meaning" precisely what the Catholic Church insisted for 1500 years... No. If you check, you'll find that the Catholic Church modifies it's teachings without reference to, and even in ...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:42 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Biblical Hallucinations
Replies: 35
Views: 357

Re: Biblical Hallucinations

VVilliam wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:22 pm You are just a time waster
Then waste no more.
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:52 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight Part 2
Replies: 178
Views: 2376

Re: Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight Part 2

As long as you are happy with your findings then what more is there to find or see. Oh, plenty. I think we both know there are many things that people do to make themselves "happy" that are not at all good things. ...we cannot know for sure that another view is deluded... Often, we can...as when th...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:43 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The tree of knowledge
Replies: 164
Views: 1565

Re: The tree of knowledge

Dontaskme wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:41 pm I only understand the Jesus teachings on a human psychological level...
I expect that's probably true.
by Immanuel Can
Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:32 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight Part 2
Replies: 178
Views: 2376

Re: Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight Part 2

...your way will also be correct nonetheless according to how you are seeing it. I would ask more. I would ask, "Which 'way' is the truth?" People have plenty of their own preferred delusions. And sometimes we mistake respecting the person for having to agree with his/her illusions. But one can dis...