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by Immanuel Can
Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:46 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Indifference means that there is no God
Replies: 52
Views: 1152

Re: Indifference means that there is no God

This is not to say there is no god. Correct. This is to say our knowledge of god has zero chance. Incorrect. You can realize this if you think about this fact: all it takes is one person -- just one -- in the entire history of human civilization -- to say genuinely, "I know, or have had an experien...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:43 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Indifference means that there is no God
Replies: 52
Views: 1152

Re: Indifference means that there is no God

agnostic weak atheist Only if you drop the "atheist" tag. Be a pure "agnostic," and we've got no issues. Otherwise, it's dead on. Of course it's possible that somebody has met god if god exists. If he doesn't exist, then it doesn't matter how many people say they have met him whether they mean it o...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:30 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Indifference means that there is no God
Replies: 52
Views: 1152

Re: Indifference means that there is no God

First, I never claimed, nor even implied, that they did not mean what they said -- this is just you putting words into my mouth, a not uncommon tactic for you. Misdirection. What is your evidence? ...someone who claims to have met God has the burden of proof to substantiate his claim. Which is exac...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:16 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Indifference means that there is no God
Replies: 52
Views: 1152

Re: Indifference means that there is no God

Suppose that God is in X. This means that the chance of having a God like that is equal to x/(X+Y)=1/2=50% where x=X=Y=1. No, I want a real quantity to substitute for X. For if you understand algebra, you know that an X is a placeholder for a real quantity, like a 1 or a 25 or a 1,003, or whatever....
by Immanuel Can
Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:12 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Indifference means that there is no God
Replies: 52
Views: 1152

Re: Indifference means that there is no God

Right. They all "thought" that they did. Doesn't mean they actually did. Maybe. But it doesn't prove the opposite either. And after all, even in a court of law or a matter of historical verification, human testimony is considered one form of datum. It is not all we have, but when it is offered it m...
by Immanuel Can
Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:31 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Indifference means that there is no God
Replies: 52
Views: 1152

Re: Indifference means that there is no God

This is not possible with God, whom no one has ever met. Not so fast. Moses thought He did. Isaiah thought he did. The disciples of Christ thought they did. John thought he did. Paul thought he did. And others claimed they did. But you say that none of them actually did. What is your data justifyin...
by Immanuel Can
Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:26 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Indifference means that there is no God
Replies: 52
Views: 1152

Re: Indifference means that there is no God

Think of two possible worlds, X and Y. God could be x or y but not both. I think I see where you've gone wrong. But I want to be sure. So give me any specific values for x and y, in the situation you suggest. This means the chance of having God in a possible world is 50%. If "God" means "Supreme" o...
by Immanuel Can
Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:01 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Indifference means that there is no God
Replies: 52
Views: 1152

Re: Indifference means that there is no God

The difference is that God is unique but there could even be many similar bahman (in some possible worlds). Explain how "uniqueness" can a) be predicated of a being you claim doesn't exist at all, and b) provides some qualification for your earlier claims. It's not readily apparent to anyone how yo...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:06 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Indifference means that there is no God
Replies: 52
Views: 1152

Re: Indifference means that there is no God

davidm wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:51 pm
Wrong.
I agree...he is.

But it's his wording and logic, not mine. So your issue is with him.
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:50 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Indifference means that there is no God
Replies: 52
Views: 1152

Re: Indifference means that there is no God

There is a simple fact, indifference, that there are tremendous, infinite for example, ways that bahman could look like (in some possible world). This means that the chance that one of these bahman could exist is rare, zero in case of infinite ways. Therefore there is no bahman.
by Immanuel Can
Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:49 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: ''You'' is not a person.
Replies: 5
Views: 565

Re: ''You'' is not a person.

I isn't? :(
by Immanuel Can
Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:08 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1368
Views: 64768

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

...it fails to show that an actual infinite is not possible.... Actually, I've given you a solid demonstration of it. Start counting forward from an infinitely receded starting point, if you can. That's a perfect demonstration of why an actual infinite regression of causes is impossible. And so far...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:03 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1368
Views: 64768

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

To reiterate simply: a potential infinity can never become actually infinite, by successive addition of number/events. But an actually infinite set can always successively accommodate new events! See Cantor. These means past events can be infinite, without conflicting with successive addition. It's...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:01 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1368
Views: 64768

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

In this discussion, one must distinguish between a potential infinity and an actual infinity. Ican has not made this distinction. It is true that one can never “form” an actual infinity by successively adding to a potential infinity — but a potential infinity is defined as one that has a starting p...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:20 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1368
Views: 64768

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

The usual answer is that things necessarily are as they are. There's nothing "usual" about that explanation. Rather, most people make a distinction between "necessary" and "contingent," between events or phenomena that "have to" happen, and those that "could be" another way. Only Fatalists don't. I...