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by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:00 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

There are many arguments, just no actual evidence/proof. You don't know this, either. You don't even show that you know more than " there are many arguments" (out there, somewhere, unknown in particular to you). You don't know what "evidence/proof" is attached to any of them. But unless you do know...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

I know that no one has that kind of proof. You want to think you know, but you don't actually know. Now, that's a suitably modest claim. If you said it, I would believe you. However, modesty also would remind you that you don't know everybody. And if you did a rudimentary internet search, you'd fin...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:22 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

I said "some level" (which is good enough), not an absolute level of knowledge I'm going to change the tone here. I'm actually going to let you off the hook, because I know you can't back that claim, and there's no point in grinding you with it. That's not nice. So I'm going to say this, instead. I...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:11 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

At least 2 brain requirements, one is rare the other one is super rare, that they coincide in the same person is even rarer, but it's been known to happen sometimes. Won't go into that here. No, no...let's go into that. I don't want to miss a step, and you must remember...I'm a person of limited ab...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

At least 2 brain requirements, one is rare the other one is super rare, that they coincide in the same person is even rarer, but it's been known to happen sometimes. Won't go into that here. No, no...let's go into that. I don't want to miss a step, and you must remember...I'm a person of limited ab...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:34 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

Atla wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:30 pm Just because you have a mediocre mind, doesn't mean that everyone else does too.
:D So entertaining! Please, do continue, you sage you.
Some people can actually investigate the total knowledge of humanity on some level, even today.
Please, do tell.

How?
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:14 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

I did investigate the total knowledge of humanity on some level... Yeah, well, if you can find anybody who is prepared to believe that, send them along to me: I have some lovely real estate in Florida I'd like to unload, and they seem like just the right types. At no point does the statement, "I ha...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:04 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

Obviously I have investigated all these viewpoints already, and we both know that the evidence you refer to doesn't exist. I don't believe you, for the simple reason that the ability to say "I have been everywhere, seen all possible evidence, and have now concluded that no such information exists" ...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:49 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

More "I can't deal with the world as it is (as far as we can tell)". Heh. :D I see you're very committed to your worldview "as far as we can tell" being the sum and total of truth. There's nothing terribly unusual about that; lots of people fear to think differently from what they've chosen to thin...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Propaganda Antidote
Replies: 86
Views: 668

Re: Propaganda Antidote

Government schools that indoctrinate rather than educate are responsible for such danger. Fresh young faces are being released into the wild ill-prepared to defend themselves against propaganda. Defend themselves? Of course not. Being soaked in Relativistic propaganda is not just a poor preparation...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:03 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

What you take as a rationale for total Nihilism, Kierkegaard saw as a fundamental necessitation of faith. That's a long way of saying: "I can't deal with the world as it is (as far as we can tell)". We already know that. No. That's a way of saying two things: 1. I understand why you see the world t...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: putting religion in it's proper place
Replies: 301
Views: 2733

Re: putting religion in it's proper place

attofishpi wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:52 pm
Oh thanks, I'll put it beside my widgleywoggley
Do that. When you do, you'll realize your skepticism was mistaken, and not a little silly. Standard grammar recognizes concepts as nouns.
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4416
Views: 208129

Re: What could make morality objective?

This kind of nihilism is fact as far as we can tell. You need to say, "As far as I can tell," or at least, "As far as I and the people I hang around with can tell." But to speak as if one had comprehensive and universal experience is often a perilous exercise, logically. You will find that others t...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: putting religion in it's proper place
Replies: 301
Views: 2733

Re: putting religion in it's proper place

The underlined-bolded-blue statements I emphasized tells me that you are resisting any willingness or possibly lack an ability to connect the analogies I'm using to help you understand the perspective of the athiest of the religious persons such as yourself. You're quite right. I'm not detecting an...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:22 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: putting religion in it's proper place
Replies: 301
Views: 2733

Re: putting religion in it's proper place

Because my good chap, I learned in primary school that a noun is a: person, place or thing. NOT an attribute of a person a place or a thing. "A person, place or thing, or idea ," if your primary school taught you correctly. Abstract nouns are also nouns, you see. But that's not the point. The point...