Search found 4588 matches

by Immanuel Can
Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:02 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Meaning of 'Islam'?
Replies: 101
Views: 1741

Re: Meaning of 'Islam'?

Veritas Aequitas wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:18 am
The belief in God is due to a psychological compulsion...
Such a dull and often-refuted allegation. It's not worth my time any longer.
by Immanuel Can
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:59 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

Your analysis of what constitutes harm is correct: things and actions we may call harmful by one criterion we may instead call beneficial by another. And yet you claim the word 'good' and its cognates are free of this subjective, judgemental use - that being good is an objective property, for examp...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

Not according to wikipedia: A wiki is not an authoritative source. It's an open-source place where experts and non-experts alike get their crack at contributing, and editing is often a bit spotty. A good scholarly source does either the same or better every time. But in this case, I didn't even ask...
by Immanuel Can
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:36 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

The way I use it - it is a social construct. It is grounded in consensus. This is quite a different claim from saying that words are infinitely flexible. Now you're saying they're concretized by social consensus. But if they are objects of social consensus, then society is agreeing about something ...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:32 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Meaning of 'Islam'?
Replies: 101
Views: 1741

Re: Meaning of 'Islam'?

Don't worry. They will be solved. Just not by human agency. There will be an accounting; of that you can be sure. Sorry I need to put you on ignore, you are too stupid! Well, we'll see who's right. Before that happens, we'd all best do something about it. Because judgment doesn't just come against ...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:30 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

You don't say! Have you ever wondered why that is? Could it be because language is the wrong tool for the job at hand? If it is, why do you keep using it? From now on, so that you can be consistent with your theory that the meaning of words is infinitely flexible, I request that you only type to me...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:30 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

Good. So you accept the challenge for an air-tight definition? What on earth are you talking about? It's you who have the word, "harm." And you can't use it to do any morality-discerning work at all, apparently. So my argument stops at pointing out that you chose a useless term. Meanwhile, doctors ...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:02 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

I thought you said words aren't infinitely flexible? Now look how easily you have found wiggle room and uncertainty. I said THAT word is too flexible. I didn't say they all were, or that context makes no difference to how flexible a particular set of them might be, or how that we can refine meaning...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

It is not vague! It means PRECISELY what harm means. Objectively and all. Is cutting someone "harm"? Is it harm when they cut themselves for fun? Is it harm when a surgeon cuts them? Is it harm when you let someone make a mistake and get hurt? Is it always even wrong when you let people get hurt on...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Meaning of 'Islam'?
Replies: 101
Views: 1741

Re: Meaning of 'Islam'?

They don't "undo" truth. That's just the thing about lies: sooner or later, they all fail. There is a price to be paid for departing from truth, and that price comes due eventually, every time. What you say that we would have 100% solved criminal cases, Don't worry. They will be solved. Just not by...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:41 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

How conveniently you pretend you weren't defending this exact position 10 days ago
Incorrect. I have not argued in favour of the infinite flexibility these even once. All I've said is that the particular word "harm" is a very vague coinage, and not informative. And that's true.
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:40 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

TimeSeeker wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:27 pm
What if God commanded 'no harm'?
He did not, so it's a merely speculative question. But I can guess that the Supreme Being would not be oblivious to the vagueness inherent in the word "harm."
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:25 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

It doesn't matter. I can't know what your intent is, and you can't communicate it to me, according to your view. So it cannot be an important "variable" here. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Relevance? :? If language is infinitely flexible, then that's the only outcome we can really...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:43 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

By the internal standard of performative inconsistency. You use words to debunk words. If you succeed, you fail. That is just an observational error. You are missing a significant variable - my intent. It doesn't matter. I can't know what your intent is, and you can't communicate it to me, accordin...
by Immanuel Can
Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:26 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1205
Views: 16909

Re: What could make morality objective?

If this is true, then the infinite flexibility of language thesis is false. We can use language to refer to tiger situations in common, then. By what standard of truth? By the internal standard of performative inconsistency. You use words to debunk words. If you succeed, you fail. And you are conti...