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- Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:11 pm
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: Death
- Replies: 334
- Views: 84902
Re: Death
Look, I appreciate the good things in Christianity, It doesn't seem to me that you even know what these things are. I hate to guess, but I think you must have a very poor acquaintance indeed with this subject. And though I can't say what this acquaintance is, I'm absolutely certain my own is far mo...
- Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:17 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: The problem is human nature not religion
- Replies: 87
- Views: 26132
Re: The problem is human nature not religion
Sorry, no: political ideology is mankind's most dangerous institution. Science has caused no wars; and while it is the *instrument* of environmental destruction, it does not determine it's own use -- humans with ideologies do that. Religion has killed no more than 7% of all the people who have died ...
- Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:25 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: The problem is human nature not religion
- Replies: 87
- Views: 26132
Re: The problem is human nature not religion
From whence do we derive a moral imperative for "tolerance"? Is there an aspect of the natural world that informs us why it is necessary? Should we tolerate evil? Should we tolerate stupidity? Should we tolerate disease and defect? What is the "object" of this talk of tolerance? ...
- Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:20 pm
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: Choice or Determinism
- Replies: 91
- Views: 28325
Re: Choice or Determinism
Depends on your definition of determinism. I, for one, would disagree. Materialism is true and yet I'm a compatibilist, not a determinist. You seem unsettled over the fact that we are not, so far, putting much weight on Compatibilitism or treating it as a live option. I can't speak for others, but ...
- Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:20 am
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: Death
- Replies: 334
- Views: 84902
Re: Death
The Christ appellation was used during his lifetime in a different way than it was used by Christendom. It was like calling Elvis the King. It just basically meant that the man had found great gifts in himself and used them to his best ability. Christians exaggerate this to the point of making Jesu...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:38 pm
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: Choice or Determinism
- Replies: 91
- Views: 28325
Re: Choice or Determinism
Hell if I know exactly what I am (not exactly 'free', not exactly 'determined, not exactly the initiator of causal chains, not entirely mired in causal chains). What I do know: it's not as simple (black and white) as "choice or determinism". Well, not "Hell," I hope. :) I would ...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:29 pm
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: Death
- Replies: 334
- Views: 84902
Re: Death
Not seein' how you can it both ways, Manny. If god is perfect (in all ways) then God has no need (to create). I agree. God has no *need* to create. But "need" is not one of the categories I attributed to Him. On the other hand, if He *wants* to create, who's going to stop a Supreme Being ...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:19 pm
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: If infinite parallel universes exist ...
- Replies: 65
- Views: 24422
Re: If infinite parallel universes exist ...
There's only one infinity you can use or manipulate in any reliable way, the universe which is infinite but finite in size. In a way, this comes close to my point. Infinity is not calculable, and thus probability calculations cannot be performed upon it. Only if a problem is bounded and finite in a...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:07 pm
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: Death
- Replies: 334
- Views: 84902
Re: Death
Bernard:
I just think it's wrong.
That's a different thing.
I "get" it...I know the view very well.you'll will probably never get that.
I just think it's wrong.
That's a different thing.
Not at all. Perhaps you should explain.Do you see how out of kilter that reply is to the one you just made above?
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:02 pm
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: Death
- Replies: 334
- Views: 84902
Re: Death
"A Supreme Being" with no need for distractions, with perfect intent, who never fails. You've described the perfect computer (which is what some suggest the universe 'is'). Not at all. I've merely listed three attributes which people might (wrongly) associate with a computer, but which ar...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:09 pm
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: Death
- Replies: 334
- Views: 84902
Re: Death
Why is it a given that such a being incorporated 'meaning' into the mix (*or, that such a being give a rat's ass about you or me?). In the case of a Supreme Being, Henry, it seems highly unlikely he would need to "doodle." :) After all, doodling is what we do when we can't think of someth...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:01 pm
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: Death
- Replies: 334
- Views: 84902
Re: Death
May I intrude? Given my chosen pseudonym, I can hardly be expected to forebear. The Christ is just the spirit in all of us. It's the same as the Buddha. Well, Bernard, this certainly isn't what He has said He is. So you must not be thinking of the "Christ" of the Bible, but rather of some ...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:21 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: The omniscience issue
- Replies: 34
- Views: 10509
Re: The omniscience issue
And a fun thing I once heard This sort of thing I usually ignore entirely. However, in this case I will make this exception, since so much is at stake. Do you know that you are mentioned in the Bible? Yes, it's true: Jesus Christ Himself said: "I tell you that every careless word that people s...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:17 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: The omniscience issue
- Replies: 34
- Views: 10509
Re: The omniscience issue
Our choices are determined by our DNA and the chemical reactions in our brain. Ah. Causal fallacy. Coincidence is not causality. The fact that we "have" DNA, or even the fact that when we have a particular thought certain chemicals are detectible, does not show that DNA or chemicals "...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:44 am
- Forum: Metaphysics
- Topic: Choice or Determinism
- Replies: 91
- Views: 28325
Re: Choice or Determinism
Well, aiddon, I think it's a funny exercise we're involved in here! We're philosophizing, but the (Determinist) truth of the matter is that we cannot change our minds anyway! In fact, if we think further we realize that we can't even contribute anything to the delusion that we are changing our minds...