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That's because while opinions are subjective, the process of voting is objective. Yet another reason why Subjectivism is stupid: it ignores the impact of what you do on other people. The point is, our place in society, and our rights, have nothing to do with the subjectivity of our morality. I hate...

Yes, he does. And that's just fine: every American citizen should have that right. But to suppose that any argument against any candidate that is made by a Subjectivist means something important...that's quite a different question. But you told him nobody has to take any notice of his subjective op...

Right. That's the Subjectivist problem. Nothing they affirm in the moral realm has any logical obligation for anybody else. He still gets to vote, though. Yes, he does. And that's just fine: every American citizen should have that right. But to suppose that any argument against any candidate that i...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 5:47 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 5:36 pm no one is obligated to follow my morality,

Right. That's the Subjectivist problem. Nothing they affirm in the moral realm has any logical obligation for anybody else.

He still gets to vote, though.

Yes. Always trust the Anthony Faucis of the world. They're "the Science." :roll: On a tangential note, there's a Biblical principle that says basically, "if you rebuild something you just destroyed, you prove you screwed up." (Gal. 2:18). So we should ask the people who believed...

Science. Don't trust science, whatever you do. :shock: Yes. Always trust the Anthony Faucis of the world. They're "the Science." :roll: On a tangential note, there's a Biblical principle that says basically, "if you rebuild something you just destroyed, you prove you screwed up."...

Let's start at the start. I did suggest this, but at the time you were less in favour. If we want to start at the real beginning, the beginning of my "establishing" of things was the gospels, not Genesis. Anyway... "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth." Do yo...

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 11:12 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 11:27 pm"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth."

Do you have any objective source other than the Bible to corroborate this?

The original planning application is to be found in the archives of Eden Parish Council.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 11:27 pm

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 10:28 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 10:05 pmI don't "shy" away from any such thing, actually.

Oh good. So what is factual about Genesis?

Let's start at the start.

"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth."

How many heavens?

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 10:05 pm But I'm still waiting for your question or comment, Will.

Well if it's anything to do with the underwear, just remember I asked first.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:43 pm
I was seeing a therapist for a while who was also a minister who told me that the reason Christians embalm their dead is so that they can reinhabit their bodies when they are resurrected.

I'm glad to say that isn't common practice in the UK. It's grotesque.

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 9:08 pm A fish need not be present for there to be a fishy smell.

So true.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 9:01 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 8:33 pm Objective morality is a fiction...

Here's the interesting thing about a fiction: it only works if it gives off the illusion of fact.

So that is why you deny the Bible is fiction.

Ummm...nope, sorry. :? Not even remotely interested, actually. It was you who brought it up -- If you don't want to hear about it, has it occurred to you to stop referring to it? Gladly. Now, what did you want to say, before you did the spontaneous, "Here are my proclivities" thing? Nothi...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 8:37 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 8:28 pm Nevertheless, you are obviously fascinated by it.

Ummm...nope, sorry. Not even remotely interested, actually. It was you who brought it up --

If you don't want to hear about it, has it occurred to you to stop referring to it?