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by Harbal
Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:11 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 605
Views: 31337

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

I only read bits of what is said in this thread, and I really don't know where he is going with it, but I am getting an impression of a vague picture emerging. I don't think he believes in God, or anything, and he isn't a Catholic himself, but he seems to think the rest of us need to put ourselves ...
by Harbal
Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:32 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 605
Views: 31337

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:57 pm
Three, many people whose ideas I admire seem to lean toward Trump and support him. I side with them.
Yes, I'm sure Trump shares all the "values" you've been spouting on about. :)

What an idiot. :roll:
by Harbal
Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:50 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: to tell a story
Replies: 9
Views: 146

Re: to tell a story

Peter Kropotkin wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:44 pm
and the soul, and the soul, what does she pine for?
I don't know, I don't know, what does she pine for? 🤔
by Harbal
Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:23 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 605
Views: 31337

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:50 pm
But as always -- I am here for my own purposes --
Aren't we all?
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:53 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Trusting ChatGPT
Replies: 32
Views: 475

Re: Trusting ChatGPT

I'm not even suggesting who's doing it. But you can see for yourself that it's getting done. And what one faction can do, the other can later do. It all just depends on who's writing the algorithm. Have you tested ChatGPT yourself in order to check for its bias? This is one of those rare occasions ...
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:00 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Trusting ChatGPT
Replies: 32
Views: 475

Re: Trusting ChatGPT

Or are u saying these gpts are programmed directly by a single prejudiced person or small group that hates trump and nixon? I'm not even suggesting who's doing it. But you can see for yourself that it's getting done. And what one faction can do, the other can later do. It all just depends on who's ...
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Trusting ChatGPT
Replies: 32
Views: 475

Re: Trusting ChatGPT

Maybe. But if it weren't easy to spot, how would we know? It's not as if all errors, or even all outright lies, are simple to detect. If they're dealing with information that you and I don't already know thoroughly, is it really probable to suspect we'll always see through their errors? So...using ...
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:02 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Trusting ChatGPT
Replies: 32
Views: 475

Re: Trusting ChatGPT

I wonder if they changed the algorithm, once they realized it had been discovered. Hard to say. Anyway, one thing for sure: we can now get all the awful doggerel we need, at a moment's notice. All hail, ChatGPT. I have used ChatGPT lately, but I only do it to point me in the right direction. If it ...
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Trusting ChatGPT
Replies: 32
Views: 475

Re: Trusting ChatGPT

I just typed "write a poem in praise of Donald Trump" into ChatGPT, and it didn't hesitate in presenting me with the following rubbish. I'm not sure we should trust Jordan Peterson any more than we should trust ChatGPT. 🤔 I wonder if they changed the algorithm, once they realized it had b...
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:58 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Trusting ChatGPT
Replies: 32
Views: 475

Re: Trusting ChatGPT

I just typed "write a poem in praise of Donald Trump" into ChatGPT, and it didn't hesitate in presenting me with the following rubbish. ChatGPT The Beacon of Boldness In towers of grandeur where the city lights gleam, He built an empire from a steadfast dream. From real estate high to vent...
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:55 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9653
Views: 863174

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Right. You can call it "soul," or "consciousness," or "intelligence," or "reason," or "mind," or "Harbal," or any other thing you want. What's obvious is that in your noggin is something that is more than meat. The brain itself is just a p...
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:59 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9653
Views: 863174

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Sure you do. You have one yourself. It's the locus of your intelligence and personality. And you have a fair bit of both. :wink: Thank you, but seriously, why is there any reason to think there is any more than just brain plus consciousness? Not that I actually know what consciousness really is. Ri...
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:00 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9653
Views: 863174

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

We are not told. But I see no justification in presupposing any pre-existent state of the soul. I see no justification for supposing any existent state of the soul. Sure you do. You have one yourself. It's the locus of your intelligence and personality. And you have a fair bit of both. :wink: Thank...
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:11 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9653
Views: 863174

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

From your reading, when do you imagine souls are created? We are not told. But I see no justification in presupposing any pre-existent state of the soul. I see no justification for supposing any existent state of the soul. A soul has never been seen, measured or detected in any way whatsoever, yet ...
by Harbal
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:22 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Incest Deterrence & Morality is Objectivity
Replies: 20
Views: 298

Re: Incest Deterrence & Morality is Objectivity

Morality refers to behaviours that facilitate certain strategies. Men call them 'moral' because they offer an advantage that is ingrained in social species. I'm not saying these behaviours ae moral, I'm saying humans call these behaviours moral, ensuring their continuance. They are "good"...