How many heavens?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 11:27 pmLet's start at the start.
"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth."
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- Tue May 07, 2024 11:35 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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- Tue May 07, 2024 10:09 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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Well if it's anything to do with the underwear, just remember I asked first.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 10:05 pm But I'm still waiting for your question or comment, Will.
- Tue May 07, 2024 9:28 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
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I'm glad to say that isn't common practice in the UK. It's grotesque.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:43 pm
I was seeing a therapist for a while who was also a minister who told me that the reason Christians embalm their dead is so that they can reinhabit their bodies when they are resurrected.
- Tue May 07, 2024 9:14 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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- Tue May 07, 2024 9:11 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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So that is why you deny the Bible is fiction.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 9:01 pmHere's the interesting thing about a fiction: it only works if it gives off the illusion of fact.
- Tue May 07, 2024 8:53 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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Ummm...nope, sorry. :? Not even remotely interested, actually. It was you who brought it up -- If you don't want to hear about it, has it occurred to you to stop referring to it? Gladly. Now, what did you want to say, before you did the spontaneous, "Here are my proclivities" thing? Nothi...
- Tue May 07, 2024 8:43 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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If you don't want to hear about it, has it occurred to you to stop referring to it?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 8:37 pmUmmm...nope, sorry. Not even remotely interested, actually. It was you who brought it up --
- Tue May 07, 2024 8:41 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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What if you don't have a sense of smell? What if one person finds that something smells fishy, but another thinks it smells peppery, with a slight hint of cinnamon? What is the objective truth of the matter then? If you don't have the sense of smell then you don't have the organ for detecting smell...
- Tue May 07, 2024 8:30 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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- Tue May 07, 2024 8:28 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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Since you weren't asking me for any reason, it seems rather gratuitous...and out of context... Asking you what? I don't know. Why were you suddenly talking about your private sexual proclivities? I don't have any private sexual proclivities, my habit of shagging as many married women as I can lay m...
- Tue May 07, 2024 8:09 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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Why do you keep using the traffic lights analogy, rather than refer to the issues you are thinking of directly? I use it because traffic lights are less threatening than morality. Talk about morality tends to make people defensive. They think that their values, their identity, their beliefs are bei...
- Tue May 07, 2024 8:03 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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If a claim is subjective, you cannot check it against anything, and that subsequently brings into question whther it can have a truth value at all. That would make subjective morality pretty well useless. The fact that everyone agrees that Paris is smelly cannot make it and objective fact, it just ...
- Tue May 07, 2024 7:46 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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I know that morality involves a group of people. So I don't see how everyone can have his own personal subjective morality. Which is what your statements seem to suggest. That's the part that I find baffling. One person may have moral values and opinions that do not coincide with another person's, ...
- Tue May 07, 2024 7:41 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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Asking you what?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 7:19 pmSince you weren't asking me for any reason, it seems rather gratuitous...and out of context...Harbal wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:42 pmThat's just the way I am.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:40 pm
Oh. You were just unilaterally declaring in favour of extramarital sexual congress? Why did you want to bring that up here?
- Tue May 07, 2024 7:06 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
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I know what morality is, and I'm sure you do, and any difference between us is probably just a matter of terminology, so I don't think it matters much. I know that morality involves a group of people. So I don't see how everyone can have his own personal subjective morality. Which is what your stat...