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- Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:25 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
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Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
It burns your definition of "good" to nothing, because even you can't apply it. Got any better definition? Of course I can't apply the term, "good", to something I think is bad. :? Neither term has any objective reality, you say. So it doesn't matter. Nothing is objectively mora...
- Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:41 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
- Views: 2164
Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
No...no...don't walk away from the issue. Do you approve of that list of malefactors and malefactions I listed in my earlier message, or do you recognize your proposed definition as seriously flawed? Yes? No? The final solution, for example, is something I consider to have been morally bad, so no, ...
- Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:20 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
- Views: 2164
Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
Well, no...not unless you are approving of the listed acts and persons. And most people, it seems do not hold that moral assessment. So you're not saying what the term actually means, either analytically or by popular assumption. And you're not even saying what you, yourself believe, if you don't a...
- Mon Jun 03, 2024 3:25 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
- Views: 2164
Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
That is precisely the point. "Morally good" is not at all the same as "functionally good," or "comestibly good," or "aesthetically good," or "musically good," or any number of other kinds of "good." But since we're talking about moral real...
- Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:17 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
- Views: 2164
Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
The word, "good", in not exclusive to morality. It is a qualitative term, and can apply to anything. That is precisely the point. "Morally good" is not at all the same as "functionally good," or "comestibly good," or "aesthetically good," or "m...
- Sun Jun 02, 2024 4:23 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 1017
- Views: 17196
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
No doubt about it; definitely gibberish.
- Sun Jun 02, 2024 4:19 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 1017
- Views: 17196
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
On the contrary, Gary Childress, you have yet to demonstrate the perceptiveness required to understand, as I'm sure many readers will attest. :wink: I know word salad when I see it, Walker. Been there done that, learned and moved on. Just waiting for you to evolve now. I prefer the word, gibberish.
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 5:35 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
- Views: 2164
Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
It's not a threat. I have no power to enact any such thing, and don't pretend to. But I also don't have to convince you. You'll think and be convinced now, or you'll be convinced later. My job? I just have to tell you. Job done. We are here to argue about morality, not to make predictions about the...
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 4:06 pm
- Forum: Introduce Yourself
- Topic: Hello From Emmanuel Katto Uganda
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1763
Re: Hello From Emmanuel Katto Uganda
Sure! Thinking of racist behaviour as, for example, treating black Africans as likely to be less moral than the rest of society in general , That's an example of something you judge as racist, but I asked for a definition of "racist", not for an example. have I persuaded you that, in cont...
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 3:57 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
- Views: 2164
Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
Believe you me, it won't be. I'm afraid your threat is no more convincing than your argument. It's not a threat. I have no power to enact any such thing, and don't pretend to. But I also don't have to convince you. You'll think and be convinced now, or you'll be convinced later. My job? I just have...
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 3:48 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
- Views: 2164
Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
No, because "religion" is merely a man-made attempt to appropriate the prerogatives of God, such as His right to set the terms of relationship with Him, and His right to define for us the Good. It is a diffuse and anthropomorphic thing. We can only get an objective good from God , as Mono...
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 3:41 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
- Views: 2164
Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
We'll see. I think it's not, you think it is. We'll find out. What we may or may not find out sometime never, is irrelevant. Believe you me, it won't be. I'm afraid your threat is no more convincing than your argument. 🙂 If I may offer a bit of advice: never use the words, "believe me", w...
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 3:11 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
- Views: 2164
Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
Or you can interpret that Plato's dialogue is written by that guy, in that society with all the attendant polytheistic assumptions intractably baked in as IC does. As Socrates does, actually. As you can see, he's at great pains to make sure he gets that point before proceeding with Euthyphro. And n...
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 2:49 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
- Replies: 225
- Views: 2164
Re: Theism and Moral Realism are separate concepts
What you attribute to God as his nature, and how that determines morality, is a mere assumption that whatever the Bible says is true, but that is just a gratuitous allowance on your part. We'll see. I think it's not, you think it is. We'll find out. What we may or may not find out sometime never, i...
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 2:35 pm
- Forum: Introduce Yourself
- Topic: Hello From Emmanuel Katto Uganda
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1763
Re: Hello From Emmanuel Katto Uganda
Have I persuaded you that, in context, this ... … (dont mention gold bullion or Prince Gabanji your uncle that just needs to unlock his bank account with a large deposit to make us all rich) ...was a little bit racist? If you would give me a precise definition of the word, "racist", I wil...