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by Foramen Magnum
Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:26 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: The Death of all Political Philosophy
Replies: 33
Views: 8513

Re: The Death of all Political Philosophy

You can argue that crap till you're blue in the face, but it doesn't mean anything. Logic and reason has virtually nothing to do with morality. That's why philosophy has never been able to solve a single moral question and never will. Couldn't we also argue that we assume 2 year-olds will not grow ...
by Foramen Magnum
Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:54 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: The Death of all Political Philosophy
Replies: 33
Views: 8513

Re: The Death of all Political Philosophy

Then prove it. When the zygote first forms, why does it have rights? It can't even voice an opinion, so how does giving it rights mean anything? Even if it does have rights, doesn't the pregnant mother also have rights? What if her rights conflict with the zygote's? Whose rights are given greater w...
by Foramen Magnum
Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:50 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Black People and Crime
Replies: 364
Views: 61375

Re: Black People and Crime

ok i know a lot of people who listen to this stuff - its not really my thing but a lot of people do listen to it i never thought of it as gloryfying anything but anyway your local high school crack dealer is as likely to listen to it as the valedictorian heck some of the younger teachers listen to ...
by Foramen Magnum
Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:13 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Black People and Crime
Replies: 364
Views: 61375

Re: Black People and Crime

this music glorifies crime in roughly the same way that grand theft auto (the game) glorifies killing people with flamethrowers Music has a way of getting wrapped up in identity. Games, at least in my experience, don't. These songs generate a narrative; people listen, and adopt the narrative as the...
by Foramen Magnum
Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:59 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Black People and Crime
Replies: 364
Views: 61375

Re: Black People and Crime

sorry where is this music that glorifies crime there is lots of music with bad words in it but that is not the same thing except in the minds of the really stupid but i think music that glorifies crime is as much of an urban myth as murders caused by playing dungeons and dragons Took about two seco...
by Foramen Magnum
Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:23 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Black People and Crime
Replies: 364
Views: 61375

Re: Black People and Crime

You are contradicting yourself. You said "these causative factors aren't justification"- but that is exactly what mitigation is. How am I contradicting myself? I said mitigation is common, because it is. That's not a position, so I can't have contradicted myself. And besides, morality, the law, and...
by Foramen Magnum
Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:58 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Black People and Crime
Replies: 364
Views: 61375

Re: Black People and Crime

No one is arguing that you let people off - but mitigation is a valued tool of sentencing, and understanding the roots of the culture is a first step to improving society. You seem to have a 'let 'em burn' attitude, ignoring the wider harm that is going on, and forgetting the interests that continu...
by Foramen Magnum
Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:57 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Black People and Crime
Replies: 364
Views: 61375

Re: Black People and Crime

Murder is not murder. Each has its own reasons and background. I'm sure that if you or I had been born into that culture then we would likely have as much chance as any other black boy. All you are doing is dismissing the causative factors. That makes you part of the problem and not part of the sol...
by Foramen Magnum
Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:34 am
Forum: Aesthetics
Topic: Art is...
Replies: 26
Views: 7881

Re: Art is...

Bernard wrote:Yeah I think that was an early quote. I definitely prefer this from him: Art is a step from what is obvious and well-known toward what is arcane and concealed.
Seems to me art does the opposite -- more revealing than concealing.
by Foramen Magnum
Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:06 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Black People and Crime
Replies: 364
Views: 61375

Re: Black People and Crime

and the news media line up everyday to pour the poison about 'young black males' killing each other I think if you chalk it up to media conspiracy, you leave out accountability. People do buy into that culture; they do kill each other, and sometimes innocents. What's worse, they laugh about it on F...
by Foramen Magnum
Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:57 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Black People and Crime
Replies: 364
Views: 61375

Re: Black People and Crime

The problem's not strictly socio-economic and not strictly racial -- it's cultural. A particular brand of culture (thug culture) glorifies criminality for its own sake, and exalts the lifestyle as some twisted type of martyrdom. Is this lifestyle endemic in the black community? Yes. But it's not lim...