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by thedoc
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

All the more reason to live forever! If I don't die he can't Judge me. You don't know that, your only speculating. You don't know that there is a god either - and yet people base their entire life on that speculation. No I don't and yes they do. So what is wrong with that, more wrong than what othe...
by thedoc
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:47 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

Logik wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:07 pm
I am more moral than your God.

I bow to no "omnipotence" that stands by idly.
Those are both statements made by Atheists.
by thedoc
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:42 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

Logik wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:27 am
All the more reason to live forever!

If I don't die he can't Judge me.
You don't know that, your only speculating.
by thedoc
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:40 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

The fact you are trying to nitpick the numbers should suggest to you that you lost the argument. If this was 1750 and you are older than 40 you would be dead by now. Would you rather be dead? You don't have an argument, just a lot of hot air, optimism and speculation. Being dead might be better tha...
by thedoc
Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:06 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Missionary Killed on Remote Island: Discuss?
Replies: 48
Views: 1037

Re: Missionary Killed on Remote Island: Discuss?

Walker wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:55 pm
If he wasn’t a martyr he would have been more annoyed than the killers.

Why, you may ask?

Because, on the scale of life, being killed is more annoying than losing patience.
He isn't annoyed anymore, but the natives might still be annoyed if they get another missionary.
by thedoc
Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

If we can double human life expectancy in 300 years, imagine what we can do to revamp Hell given eternity and immortality! The life expectancy has doubled in the last 200 years not 300 years. You are an extreme optimist and unrealistic at that. I don't have much expectancy of immortality, medical t...
by thedoc
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

No, but the elderly do die, through nobody's fault, and you can't do a thing about it. Absolute fucking bullshit! We have almost doubled human life expectancy in 300 years. Through science and medicine we have quite literally we have re-defined the meaning of 'old' from 40 to 80. https://ourworldin...
by thedoc
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

I have the LVAD and a defibrillator which are extending my life. Several times I have died and medical technology has brought me back, but someday I will die and technology will not save me. I am resigned to that fact and I am thankful for the opportunity to live on but I take the rational view that...
by thedoc
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

You think babies' lives matter more than old peoples' lives! No, but the elderly do die, through nobody's fault, and you can't do a thing about it. Meanwhile, abortions voluntary, and perpetrated against people who would not die otherwise. It's not ageism -- it's that annoying thing again: facts. A...
by thedoc
Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: A LOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE CAUSE OF HUMANITY'S UNNATURAL BEHAVIOR.
Replies: 84
Views: 1107

Re: A LOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE CAUSE OF HUMANITY'S UNNATURAL BEHAVIOR.

Which "powers," doc? Those who have authority over everyone else whether elected, a bureaucrat, or those with wealth. In short those with the authority to tell others what they can and cannot do. Yeah, that could be. These people are much like the Pharisees and Sadducees. of the Jesus story where J...
by thedoc
Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:50 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: A LOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE CAUSE OF HUMANITY'S UNNATURAL BEHAVIOR.
Replies: 84
Views: 1107

Re: A LOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE CAUSE OF HUMANITY'S UNNATURAL BEHAVIOR.

Immanuel Can wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:19 am
thedoc wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:07 am
...the powers that be will not permit it.
Which "powers," doc?
Those who have authority over everyone else whether elected, a bureaucrat, or those with wealth. In short those with the authority to tell others what they can and cannot do.
by thedoc
Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:07 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: A LOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE CAUSE OF HUMANITY'S UNNATURAL BEHAVIOR.
Replies: 84
Views: 1107

Re: A LOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE CAUSE OF HUMANITY'S UNNATURAL BEHAVIOR.

Unfortunately it is the majority in a society that decides what is right or wrong in that society, but so far we have not found a better way. Sure we have, doc. We used to think morality was objective and didn't change with the whims of the majority. It's only nowadays that we think we're smarter t...
by thedoc
Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: A LOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE CAUSE OF HUMANITY'S UNNATURAL BEHAVIOR.
Replies: 84
Views: 1107

Re: A LOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE CAUSE OF HUMANITY'S UNNATURAL BEHAVIOR.

It is generally accepted that thought produces behavior. It follows that unnatural thought produces unnatural behavior. What is unnatural thought other than psychosis? Does this mean that the concept of extinction, or near extinction, of the species is psychotic? No, it is not unnatural to be wrong...
by thedoc
Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: All Knowledge is Assumption, Assumption is Knowledge
Replies: 61
Views: 498

Re: All Knowledge is Assumption, Assumption is Knowledge

Knowledge implies a knower. There is no known knower....therefore all knowledge is a fictional idea. There is no knower of pain...there is awareness of pain by association ...but to claim pain is my pain is an assumption. Awareness makes no such claim or assumption...the claim is a fabricated menta...
by thedoc
Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

So far IC sees a difference between the world of thought and the real world and Logik does not. I agree with IC on this point.