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by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:24 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 55
Views: 632

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

You really don't seem to have any grasp on the relevance of the formal sciences; and how they have long superseded philosophy in all matters scientific. Computer science ≡ Analytic Philosophy Can you eat X apples for any X? How about -2 apples? Or √-1 apples? Or π apples? I don't understand your po...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:59 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 55
Views: 632

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

Numbers is not mathematics per se. A numeral say 2 by itself is not mathematics which is grounded on its 'proofs'. Stating I have eaten 2 apples has nothing to do with mathematics at all. You really don't seem to have any grasp on the relevance of the formal sciences; and how they have long superse...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:54 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God is...
Replies: 50
Views: 629

Re: God is...

. I claim science is the best and most credible among many other ways to truth and reality AT PRESENT. If a problem lends itself to provability, then you should try that first. If not; If a problem lends itself to experimental testing, by all means, go for it. If not; If a problem lends itself to p...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:44 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 55
Views: 632

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

Science like Physics and other do adopt mathematics to refine their conclusions, but Science do not fall apart without mathematics, here is why: Here's from AI[wR]: Science can reach its conclusion without mathematics: Qualitative Observations: Science starts with observing the world. We can see th...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:39 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 55
Views: 632

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

Thesis: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic It's like you don't understand anything. Obviously God isn't real. Not everything that exists is real. Therefore, Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic Discuss? What's there to discuss? God exists in the understanding; and you literally don't un...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:31 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 55
Views: 632

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

You are too mathematical bias and inclined which is not in exactly alignment with philosophical which is the essence of this Forum, i.e. a philosophical forum. If you want to reject the philosophical essence and insist on mathematics as the essence you should do that in a forum specializing in Math...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:39 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Excel to Analyze Q Verses in 1400 Themes - Useless??
Replies: 124
Views: 12775

Re: Excel to Analyze Quranic Verses in 1400 Themes - Useless??

A contract need not be explicit and can be implied from circumstances. A contract is about mutual obligations. What are God's obligations in the contract? Who is supposed to enforce them? I do not see some pattern of mutual obligations in the relationship between believer and God. That is why I am ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:03 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 55
Views: 632

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

As stated, truth = real, fact, exists. Truth and physical reality are not the same things. Truth is belief that you adopt from the theory of truth that you accept. For example, true arithmetic is the collection of all facts in the universe of natural numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_arit...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:12 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: I'm wrong about everything. Now what?
Replies: 10
Views: 189

Re: I'm wrong about everything. Now what?

Is there any progress in philosophy? Or more to the point, is there any progress in humanity, or do we simply go around in repetitious circles? Or maybe it's just me going around in circles. I give up. My productive life is over as far as I'm concerned. I'm in retirement. Game over. Life [philosoph...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:13 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 55
Views: 632

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

The best of mathematics cannot be as realistic as the best of science. Note if rated in terms of reality, mathematics is 20/100 compared to science at 100/100 indexed as the gold standard. Science and mathematics describe different realities. Science is always about the physical universe. Mathemati...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:57 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God is...
Replies: 50
Views: 629

Re: God is...

the gold standard of 'what is real' is contingent upon the scientific framework and system [FS]. Science is a collection of stubborn observable patterns for which it is currently hard to find counterexamples. That collection is not a system. It has no pretense of systemic consistency. You somehow b...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:24 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Excel to Analyze Q Verses in 1400 Themes - Useless??
Replies: 124
Views: 12775

Re: Excel to Analyze Quranic Verses in 1400 Themes - Useless??

I am interest to know: As a true believer, can you confirm you have entered into a contract ' ahd ' and ' mīthāq ' [divine covenant] with your God? If you are not sure, you can research or ask in a Q&A. I am interested in your personal take on the above issue. Also are you aware of the contract...
by Veritas Aequitas
Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:36 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God is...
Replies: 50
Views: 629

Re: God is...

I stated "To insist perfect circles [illusory] exists as real is delusional." You attack mathematical realism, but your arguments are simply nonsensical. As such, while your Godel's Argument for God is mathematically true, that God is not real. You keep confusing "real" with &qu...
by Veritas Aequitas
Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:03 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 55
Views: 632

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

If it is 'real' then it can be deal with scientifically, either speculated or theorized based in the principle of empirical possibility. Historical facts are empirical but cannot be tested either. They are justified by witness depositions. Science is not the only method, even when it is about the p...
by Veritas Aequitas
Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:34 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9900
Views: 1057620

Re: What could make morality objective?

Once again, notice the contradiction. You agree that humans 'play' language games; you say that human intersubjectivity is the basis of what we call objectivity; and you say that humans have 'FSRCs'. But these are all fundamentally realist claims - about features of reality, including humans: 'thes...