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by Veritas Aequitas
Mon May 20, 2024 2:37 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: No Humans = No Human-based Reality
Replies: 10
Views: 95

Re: No Humans = No Human-based Reality

I should have added to the above "truism." No Humans = No absolutely human-based independent Reality out there. but there is a lot of nuances to it to be deliberated philosophically; Some people on this site think that "the stuff out there" is reality. You, on the other hand, th...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon May 20, 2024 2:24 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10072
Views: 930045

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

2 + 2 = 4 is only mathematically true, i.e. contingent within the rules and axioms of mathematics. It is not real in the real-sense, i.e. of which scientific reality is the most credible and objective. Demonstrate to me empirically 2 + 4 = 4 is absolutely true regardless of conditions and humans. I...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon May 20, 2024 2:14 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10072
Views: 930045

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Erm. This is a contradiction. 1 There is no human-independent reality 'out there'. 2 There is a human-independent reality 'out there'. And the rider that antirealists don't maintain the existence of a human-independent reality as an ideology is bs. 1. There is a human-independent reality 'out there...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 8:35 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 10056
Views: 1120363

Re: What could make morality objective?

There is no way Kant was or would have been an Indirect Realist. Kant was the founder and introduced the term 'realism' into philosophy. To Kant, both direct realism and indirect realism [absolutely mind-independent reality] are taboo to him. Abstract Realism takes many forms. The aim of this paper ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 6:31 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 10056
Views: 1120363

Re: What could make morality objective?

Whoa. Who says that existence has anything to do with the existence of the mind? I think existence is physical or nothing. And if the mind and perception are physical, then the claim that perception has to be 'indirect' is incoherent. So we can ignore the direct/indirect realism issue. As an antire...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 5:56 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10072
Views: 930045

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

It is impossible for "things that just are the case" to exists as things-in-themselves... First there is no fixed mind-independent reality. Reality is always changing in relation to the human realization of reality. There is no mind independent reality-as-it-is... The antirealist [Kantian...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 5:44 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10072
Views: 930045

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

"Mathematics nuances"? :lol: Do carry on. That is, mathematics is fundamentally grounded on human consensus implicitly. No, it isn't. 2+2=4, regardless of how many people agree or disagree. That's reality. Are you sure? 2 + 2 = 4 is only mathematically true, i.e. contingent within the rul...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 3:10 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: No Humans = No Human-based Reality
Replies: 10
Views: 95

Re: No Humans = No Human-based Reality

Sculptor wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 12:39 pm Typical antopomorphic delusion.
No wonder you talk such bollocks on moralty. This explains it all.
See my above explanation above on why the OP is critical for humanity's progress.
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 2:40 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: No Humans = No Human-based Reality
Replies: 10
Views: 95

Re: No Humans = No Human-based Reality

No Humans = No Human-based Reality Talk about truisms :lol: I should have added to the above "truism." No Humans = No absolutely human-based independent Reality out there. but there is a lot of nuances to it to be deliberated philosophically; If the above is not true, then the belief is, ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 18, 2024 8:24 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 10056
Views: 1120363

Re: What could make morality objective?

Here are four metaphysical assertions - assertions about reality. 1 We humans have to perceive, know and describe reality in human ways. 2 There is no reality beyond the ways we humans perceive, know and describe it. 3 Humans enable reality to emerge, then to be realized as real and then cognized, ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 18, 2024 7:54 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 10056
Views: 1120363

Re: What could make morality objective?

VA thinks my version of his P1 - 'we humans have to perceive, know and describe reality in human ways' - misrepresents it. And he denies the conclusion 'therefore, humans generate facts'. Instead, it's a 'system' that takes in inputs and generates outputs - conditioned facts, within a framework. So...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 18, 2024 7:41 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10072
Views: 930045

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

But we corrected the opinion that the sun orbits a flat earth, by finding out the fact of the matter - something that just is the case - the thing you say is a delusion. As I had argued, human relied on the human-based science-astrological FSERC to confirm the Earth orbits the Sun. Without humans, ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 18, 2024 7:09 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: No Humans = No Human-based Reality
Replies: 10
Views: 95

Re: No Humans = No Human-based Reality

Notes: I have already raised my threads to argue that Humans are the Co-creator of the reality they are in. Humans are the Co-Creator of Reality They are In create https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISdBAf-ysI0 AL-Khalili https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31180 Humans are the Co-C...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 18, 2024 7:09 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: No Humans = No Human-based Reality
Replies: 10
Views: 95

Re: No Humans = No Human-based Reality

Notes: KIV
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 18, 2024 7:08 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: No Humans = No Human-based Reality
Replies: 10
Views: 95

No Humans = No Human-based Reality

The only reality is a human-based reality. It is delusional to reify ideologically, a reality beyond a human-based reality. This is driven by an evolutionary default that generate desperate psychology. Btw, antirealists [Kantian] do recognize in one perspective, there is a reality that is human or m...