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- Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:04 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God
- Replies: 1
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- Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:03 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God
- Replies: 1
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The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God
Reference: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ontological-arguments/#GodOntArg One of the criticism of Godel's Ontological Argument with reference to Kant , from the above link is the following: " Kant would not have been happy with Axiom 5 [Necessary existence is positive]; and there is at lea...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:01 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 58
- Views: 689
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Numbers by themselves are absolutely Mathematics. 1, 2, 3, 4. Numbers paired WITH UNITS are not Mathematics. 1 APPLE 2 APPLES Here's AI's [wR] views. No, numbers by themselves are not considered mathematics. Mathematics is the study of concepts like numbers, their properties, relationships, and str...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:54 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: God is...
- Replies: 55
- Views: 676
Re: God is...
Science in its essence [modern science] do not ground itself on mathematical realism . Note there is the counter, mathematical antirealism. Realism versus antirealism is undecidable in mathematics. Science simply inherits this problem through its quantitative methods. Mathematics being a tool is no...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:46 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 58
- Views: 689
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Godelian's claimed; Godel's God is true, thus real. My practical view on the matter is rather that there is now mathematically unobjectionable proof for religion while there isn't one for atheism. Secondly, Godel's proof raises the bar because all criticism must be directed at its axioms, which are...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:26 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: God is...
- Replies: 55
- Views: 676
Re: God is...
Fermat's Last Theorem is merely a conjecture. It is a provable theorem. Andrew Wiles has finally discovered the proof. It took 350 years to achieve that. For his proof, Wiles was honoured and received numerous awards, including the 2016 Abel Prize. 1995 - 1637 = 358 years. It is not a conjecture. M...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:03 am
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: What could make morality objective?
- Replies: 9902
- Views: 1058335
Re: What could make morality objective?
You insist my argument is realist[P] when to me it is not. Therefrom you rely on your misunderstanding to condemn what you think is my argument [i.e. p-realist]. If that is not a strawman fallacy, then what it is. No, I'm not distorting your argument. I'm showing why it is, in fact, philosophically...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:24 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 58
- Views: 689
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
You really don't seem to have any grasp on the relevance of the formal sciences; and how they have long superseded philosophy in all matters scientific. Computer science ≡ Analytic Philosophy Can you eat X apples for any X? How about -2 apples? Or √-1 apples? Or π apples? I don't understand your po...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:59 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 58
- Views: 689
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Numbers is not mathematics per se. A numeral say 2 by itself is not mathematics which is grounded on its 'proofs'. Stating I have eaten 2 apples has nothing to do with mathematics at all. You really don't seem to have any grasp on the relevance of the formal sciences; and how they have long superse...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:54 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: God is...
- Replies: 55
- Views: 676
Re: God is...
. I claim science is the best and most credible among many other ways to truth and reality AT PRESENT. If a problem lends itself to provability, then you should try that first. If not; If a problem lends itself to experimental testing, by all means, go for it. If not; If a problem lends itself to p...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:44 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 58
- Views: 689
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Science like Physics and other do adopt mathematics to refine their conclusions, but Science do not fall apart without mathematics, here is why: Here's from AI[wR]: Science can reach its conclusion without mathematics: Qualitative Observations: Science starts with observing the world. We can see th...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:39 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 58
- Views: 689
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Thesis: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic It's like you don't understand anything. Obviously God isn't real. Not everything that exists is real. Therefore, Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic Discuss? What's there to discuss? God exists in the understanding; and you literally don't un...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:31 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 58
- Views: 689
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
You are too mathematical bias and inclined which is not in exactly alignment with philosophical which is the essence of this Forum, i.e. a philosophical forum. If you want to reject the philosophical essence and insist on mathematics as the essence you should do that in a forum specializing in Math...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:39 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Excel to Analyze Q Verses in 1400 Themes - Useless??
- Replies: 124
- Views: 13082
Re: Excel to Analyze Quranic Verses in 1400 Themes - Useless??
A contract need not be explicit and can be implied from circumstances. A contract is about mutual obligations. What are God's obligations in the contract? Who is supposed to enforce them? I do not see some pattern of mutual obligations in the relationship between believer and God. That is why I am ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:03 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
- Replies: 58
- Views: 689
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
As stated, truth = real, fact, exists. Truth and physical reality are not the same things. Truth is belief that you adopt from the theory of truth that you accept. For example, true arithmetic is the collection of all facts in the universe of natural numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_arit...