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by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:41 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God
Replies: 17
Views: 209

Re: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God

History keeps repeating itself. None of this is new: Say, “Indeed, I bring a flawless proof from my Lord—yet you have denied it. I do not have that for which you are impatient. The decision can only be made by Allah. He relates the truth, and He is the best of judges." Did your God bring some ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:29 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: What is Philosophy?
Replies: 83
Views: 13299

Re: What is Philosophy?

Philosophy-proper is an inherent fundamental function [tool] and an impulse that drive to facilitate the optimal well-being and flourishing of the individual[s] and therefrom humanity within reality. https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?p=447344#p447344 Despite being bastardized by academi...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:13 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God is...
Replies: 62
Views: 761

Re: God is...

Philosophy overrides Science and Mathematics You wish! Philosophy can never overrule mathematically unobjectionable proof. Philosophy can never overrule experimental test results. Only a counterexample test result can achieve that. https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?p=707228#p707228
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:12 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 64
Views: 790

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

Philosophy overrides Science and Mathematics You wish! Philosophy can never overrule mathematically unobjectionable proof. Philosophy can never overrule experimental test results. Only a counterexample test result can achieve that. Note my generic definition of philosophy here; https://forum.philos...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:07 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: How to be a Moral Realist
Replies: 6
Views: 1086

Re: How to be a Moral Realist

It is a tragic shame that you cannot apply this insight to your posts on "objective morality", since you seem to be using the "geometric method" to impose your own will upon the moral landscape yet can have not objective justification for doing so. Don't be too hasty. I am not w...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:35 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God is...
Replies: 62
Views: 761

Re: God is...

[Logic and mathematics are merely useful tool to facilitate science and other fields of knowledge. Mathematics has numerous downstream users but facilitating their work is not the goal of mathematics. It is merely a side effect of doing it right. The goal of mathematics is to discover the structure...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:33 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 64
Views: 790

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

In addition of my critique of the failure of Godel's argument, here is one with reference to Kant: No, Kant is out of the game now. His arguments can no longer participate because they are not specifically directed at Gödel's axioms. Furthermore, Kant's main argument, i.e. the purported undefinabil...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:31 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God
Replies: 17
Views: 209

Re: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God

Most philosophers accept the Godel's Ontological Argument is Unsuccessful; The Godel ontological argument has garnered quite a bit of attention in the last fifty years. In most cases, philosophers have agreed that the argument is unsuccessful but have disagreed vigorously over where exactly the fat...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:58 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9905
Views: 1060656

Re: What could make morality objective?

The reason for straw-manning an argument is to refute the straw man and pretend that that refutes the actual argument. And that's not what I'm doing. A straw man fallacy occurs when someone distorts or exaggerates another person’s argument, and then attacks the distorted version of the argument ins...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:40 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: PH: VA is a Philosophical Realist?
Replies: 1
Views: 14

Re: PH: VA is a Philosophical Realist?

Notes: KIV
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:39 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: PH: VA is a Philosophical Realist?
Replies: 1
Views: 14

PH: VA is a Philosophical Realist?

No, I'm not distorting your argument. I'm showing why it is, in fact, philosophically realist. I know you think it isn't. But what you're supposed to do is address my reasons for saying it is. Which you don't. Again. You say your argument is not philosophically realist, and I say it is - and I show...
by Veritas Aequitas
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:24 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God
Replies: 17
Views: 209

Re: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God

Most philosophers accept the Godel's Ontological Argument is Unsuccessful; The Godel ontological argument has garnered quite a bit of attention in the last fifty years. In most cases, philosophers have agreed that the argument is unsuccessful but have disagreed vigorously over where exactly the fata...
by Veritas Aequitas
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:30 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God
Replies: 17
Views: 209

Re: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God

Questions: Godel's Ontological Proof is based on higher order logic. What is so great and grant about higher order logic? Isn't it conditioned upon logic-in-general where as Kant's stated, the advantage of logic is in its limitation, i.e. the reliance on abstractions rather than particular. You're r...
by Veritas Aequitas
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:15 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God is...
Replies: 62
Views: 761

Re: God is...

Using mathematics as a tool in science does not give the assurance of certainty that the mathematical proof of God [Godel] is real. Gödel mapped the claim onto five other claims and has done this in a mathematically unobjectionable manner. That is all there is to it. It just means that from now on ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:11 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Replies: 64
Views: 790

Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic

My practical view on the matter is rather that there is now mathematically unobjectionable proof for religion while there isn't one for atheism. Secondly, Godel's proof raises the bar because all criticism must be directed at its axioms, which are expressed in higher-order modal logic, which I do n...