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by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 31, 2020 4:07 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: treesforlife: How can I know right from wrong?
Replies: 1
Views: 4

Re: treesforlife: How can I know right from wrong?

Theistic morality from God is pseudo-morality, not morality-proper. How does one know truth from falsehood? To do so, one need to know what is the truth, knowledge and fact of reality. To get to knowledge, one set up a system to cognize Justified True Beliefs. [JTB -Gettier noted]. How does one know...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 31, 2020 4:05 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: treesforlife: How can I know right from wrong?
Replies: 1
Views: 4

treesforlife: How can I know right from wrong?

Transfer this moral topic from: https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29375 Currently, there is no way to define if actions are moral. Current day morality originate from the Bible’s basic rules, such as no killing and being kind. This is not based of logic, so how are we able to defin...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 31, 2020 3:59 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: How can I know right from wrong?
Replies: 25
Views: 253

Re: How can I know right from wrong?

Currently, there is no way to define if actions are moral. Current day morality originate from the Bible’s basic rules, such as no killing and being kind. This is not based of logic, so how are we able to define good and bad. For example take hanging and quartering, why do we define that as bad? My...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 31, 2020 3:22 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 3655
Views: 126782

Re: What could make morality objective?

Yes relative objective facts from different Framework of Knowledge will clash but their respective contexts, conditions, assumptions are always explicitly [it has to be] stated. You are demanding too much. Within a community the "assumptions" are almost always implicit not explicit. They are born f...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 31, 2020 3:19 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 3655
Views: 126782

Re: What could make morality objective?

... "objective" here refers to absolute objectivity ... Relative objectivities will clash with each other. Yes, true, but "absolute objectivity" arises only from pure subjectivity. It is, as such not a value system, not a set of rules and preferences - it is rather the "intuitive"/natural mode of b...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 31, 2020 3:05 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 3655
Views: 126782

Re: What could make morality objective?

Honestly - it's stupefying. Calling moral objectivists. Please demonstrate the entailment of a moral assertion from a factual assertion: 'if A, then B' - or 'in any situation in which A is the case, then B is the case', or 'if A is true, then B is true' - and so on. Hint: if what you propose is sup...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 31, 2020 2:51 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 3655
Views: 126782

Re: What could make morality objective?

NOPE, framework of knowledge are not theories. Then Veritas Aequitas, when shown to be wrong, denies he said "NOPE, framework of knowledge are not theories." Then Veritas Aequitas, has the temerity to call me stupid! LMFHO Yes, "teacher" that is a fact. I have learned from you and PantFlasher the b...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 30, 2020 10:28 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 3655
Views: 126782

Re: What could make morality objective?

It's what Atla told you. Relative facts will always clash which is why you need one overarching framework for unification. The framework that reconciles other frameworks. That's is what ethics is for. The way out of this mess is not a common language - it's common purpose. Because we invent and use...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 30, 2020 8:51 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 3655
Views: 126782

Re: What could make morality objective?

Peter Holmes, Any response to my post? ............. Yes, your fact "that stick is 1 meter long" is independent of individuals' beliefs and opinion, but it is not independent of the collective opinion of those subjects who set and agree to what one meter is to be as the STANDARD METER. Therefore wh...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 30, 2020 8:03 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 3655
Views: 126782

Re: What could make morality objective?

Whoa :) The answer to "What could make morality objective?" is "nothing", as morality is never objective. Yet 243 pages weren't enough to get there apparently. Your hastiness here is exposing your philosophical ignorance. There are two types of 'objectivity' to be considered, i.e. 1. absolute objec...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 30, 2020 5:28 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 3655
Views: 126782

Re: What could make morality objective?

Peter Holmes, Any response to my post? ............. Yes, your fact "that stick is 1 meter long" is independent of individuals' beliefs and opinion, but it is not independent of the collective opinion of those subjects who set and agree to what one meter is to be as the STANDARD METER. Therefore wha...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 30, 2020 5:17 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The Evolution of Religion
Replies: 7
Views: 74

Re: The Evolution of Religion

The development from a religion of fear to a moral religion is a great step in peoples lives. ............. How can cosmic religious feeling be communicated from one person to another, if it can give rise to no definite notion of a God and no theology ? In my view, it is the most important function...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 30, 2020 4:48 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The Existential Crisis
Replies: 103
Views: 1060

Re: The Existential Crisis

You seem to misunderstand what the word therefore does in an argument. It is incompatible with all those caveats. In any case, if your "thesis is the origin and cause of theism is driven by the existential crisis/dilemma traceable to the DNA/RNA", then the presence of THE in that sentence is exclus...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 30, 2020 4:27 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 3655
Views: 126782

Re: What could make morality objective?

NOPE, framework of knowledge are not theories. That may be the way you see it, but the way I see it EVERYTHING is a theory. Theory of frameworks. Theory of theories. As Sculptor points out - a theory is a system. What's a system? Do you have a theory of systems? I do: * The informal version: https:...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat May 30, 2020 4:16 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 3655
Views: 126782

Re: What could make morality objective?

You are taking too long to get to the point. Philosophy too is a framework. Framework for what? Frameworks are theories. Say we have a framework/theory of knowledge. What is knowledge used for? What are frameworks/theories used for? NOPE, framework of knowledge are not theories. Note the example, t...