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Well, in Christianity, there is no "form of goodness" in the Platonic sense, and as for the Demiurge, it's pretty much the dead opposite of the Christian God. So I'm not seeing the comparability there. Where do you think early scholasticism got their ideas about the Christian God. Plato a...

Not necessarily the case, Platonic ethics doesn't contradict Christian ethics and vice versa. I think they do. Maybe you have an example in mind? Plato's concept of the Form of Goodness itself and his Demiurge, or the creator of the universe. Well, for a start, Plato was a polytheist. If he couldn'...

Not necessarily the case, Platonic ethics doesn't contradict Christian ethics and vice versa. I think they do. Maybe you have an example in mind? The reason I say this is because some commentators say Plato is "the father of rational theology." Why do you think Platonic ethics contradicts...

No, I have not "got it in for Kant," anymore than his other critics do. We see many of the same flaws in Kant's ideas, and object to them on rational grounds, not out of a mere personal motive. If you've read any of his critics, you know that's true. How do you explain your avatar? It loo...

No, I have not "got it in for Kant," anymore than his other critics do. We see many of the same flaws in Kant's ideas, and object to them on rational grounds, not out of a mere personal motive. If you've read any of his critics, you know that's true. How do you explain your avatar? It loo...

Then all you're saying is Kant pretended or wrongly thought his ethics were objective, but they were not...which is exactly right. But now you've got no candidate system for an objectively correct theory of ethics, since you're admitting Kant was wrong about that, and the OP is unanswered again. No...

Then all you're saying is Kant pretended or wrongly thought his ethics were objective, but they were not...which is exactly right. But now you've got no candidate system for an objectively correct theory of ethics, since you're admitting Kant was wrong about that, and the OP is unanswered again. No...

Then all you're saying is Kant pretended or wrongly thought his ethics were objective, but they were not...which is exactly right. But now you've got no candidate system for an objectively correct theory of ethics, since you're admitting Kant was wrong about that, and the OP is unanswered again. No...

The experts don't say that Kant is not objective, they say just the opposite. Name somebody who does. I already did with the Johnson quote. As you obviously know Kant claims that the categorical imperative is an objective standard of morality. Johnson is saying that the CI is indeed the fundamental...

Still bandwagon fallacy. The experts have been wrong before. But if you want to say they're right in this case, okay...because I was pointing out that the experts say Kant is not objective...so if you want to go with that, okay. The experts don't say that Kant is not objective, they say just the op...

Let me try and summarize the state of play so far. You argue every moral philosopher is saying that Kantian ethics is not objective, whereas, I am saying that the majority of philosophers argue that Kantian ethics is objective. The sticking point is what most moral philosophers say about Kant. Woul...

What that means is that Kant is not providing us with the requisite moral information. Other systems, some of which flatly contradict his conclusions, are being treated as equal and alternative. So take, for example, Kant's claim that you should turn your friend over to soldiers if hiding him impli...

Is God necessary for morality? Wrong question! Is morality necessary? For what? We all need moral code to live by, unless of course you are an amoralist. You answer is circular given the question I asked you. To say that you need morality, is to say that morality is necessary. What is it necessary ...

Double post, sorry.

Are you saying that Kantian ethics is not objective? Not only am I saying it, so is every moral philosopher since Kant. I am not sure what you want me to prove. I wanted you to show that Kant was a solution to how one could have a justified, necessary, objective morality without reference to God. A...