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by Gary Childress
Thu May 09, 2024 3:16 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 143
Views: 1698

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

Me: Is morality subjective or objective? How do objectivity and subjectivity apply in morality or apply to morality? ChatGPT: The debate between moral subjectivism and moral objectivism has been ongoing for centuries and remains a complex philosophical issue. Here's a simplified breakdown: Moral Su...
by Gary Childress
Thu May 09, 2024 2:37 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 143
Views: 1698

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

But they don't have to, actually...anymore than they have to make some unrelated decision based on a headache or an ingrown toenail. Subjectivism is just a twinge. It doesn't signal any objective reality. That's definitional. And certainly, nobody has to make a voting decision based on your ingrown...
by Gary Childress
Wed May 08, 2024 8:22 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 143
Views: 1698

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

Yes, he does. And that's just fine: every American citizen should have that right. But to suppose that any argument against any candidate that is made by a Subjectivist means something important...that's quite a different question. All it really means is "Today, I feel icky about Biden/Trump.&...
by Gary Childress
Wed May 08, 2024 8:10 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 143
Views: 1698

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

Right. That's the Subjectivist problem. Nothing they affirm in the moral realm has any logical obligation for anybody else. He still gets to vote, though. Yes, he does. And that's just fine: every American citizen should have that right. But to suppose that any argument against any candidate that i...
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 6:43 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 828
Views: 47704

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

The people who created these pictures could only work with the content of their imagination. So they had to imagine that God would seek out and assemble all the molecules of their former bodies and then rejoin them with their •soul•. Yet the entire story, for us, is absurd on a dozen levels. God co...
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 2:31 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 828
Views: 47704

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

But you're not all bad, AJ. You're just not in a place in life to accept the broken. Such is life. None of us can make life (edit: or rather the world) something it is not.
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 2:21 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 828
Views: 47704

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 2:15 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 2:00 pm I'd still rather be a basket case than a tormentor of basket cases.
That idea of being tormented has been your general accusation about the forum generally, hasn’t it?
No. Just from people like yourself. Most people on the forum seem to be more accepting.
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 2:00 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 828
Views: 47704

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 1:31 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 12:59 pm Yes. It could always be worse. Be thankful you're not stuck in AJ's world. What an utterly depressing thought.
And your world?
I'd still rather be a basket case than a tormentor of basket cases.
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 12:59 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 828
Views: 47704

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

So, in order to be a proper Catholic, you have to not mind being treated like a child. Interesting. 🤔 Catholicism in that sense has to speak to everyone. The child, the woman, the adolescent, the adult. There are many levels in it. From the basic and crudely pictorial to the intellectually sophisti...
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 12:18 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 828
Views: 47704

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Theology class for Harbal! A sin is an act that •offends God•. More specifically: Here “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant , overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I ...
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 11:39 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 828
Views: 47704

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 11:05 am Don’t believe him Gary. Don’t!

Did you ever see Millers Crossing (Cohn brothers)?

“Listen to your heart!” 🤣
No. I never saw millers crossing. When did they cross and did they make it OK?
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 12:16 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 828
Views: 47704

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Could you present me with the passages that support that? I would like to see. 1 Corinthians 15:35-44 Most are familiar with that bit of scripture. In no sense does it support the notion of a return to a physical body in this world. Precisely the opposite. I don't see where 1 Corinthians says the &...
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 12:05 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10009
Views: 916662

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Unlike some here, I do not argue there is no God. How on Earth could I possibly know that? If you grew up in a household that didn't have particularly religious beliefs and grew up watching Carl Sagan on Cosmos, you might think differently. I mean, I'm agnostic. But I didn't start out that way. I m...
by Gary Childress
Mon May 06, 2024 11:22 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10009
Views: 916662

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Not if your own One True Path to Enlightenment revolves around dialectical materialism. And the thing about "political economy" is that Marx and Engels insisted that their own historical assessment was...scientific? They went all the way back to nomadic, slash and burn, hunter and gathere...
by Gary Childress
Mon May 06, 2024 10:28 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 828
Views: 47704

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

The original expectation was that the righteous people would return to the world in a physical form. The eternal life would be here. Some sort of eternal life in"heaven" was a later addition/change. Could you present me with the passages that support that? I would like to see. Bart Erhman...