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by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 2:31 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 808
Views: 45043

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

But you're not all bad, AJ. You're just not in a place in life to accept the broken. Such is life. None of us can make life (edit: or rather the world) something it is not.
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 2:21 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 808
Views: 45043

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 2:15 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 2:00 pm I'd still rather be a basket case than a tormentor of basket cases.
That idea of being tormented has been your general accusation about the forum generally, hasn’t it?
No. Just from people like yourself. Most people on the forum seem to be more accepting.
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 2:00 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 808
Views: 45043

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 1:31 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 12:59 pm Yes. It could always be worse. Be thankful you're not stuck in AJ's world. What an utterly depressing thought.
And your world?
I'd still rather be a basket case than a tormentor of basket cases.
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 12:59 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 808
Views: 45043

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

So, in order to be a proper Catholic, you have to not mind being treated like a child. Interesting. 🤔 Catholicism in that sense has to speak to everyone. The child, the woman, the adolescent, the adult. There are many levels in it. From the basic and crudely pictorial to the intellectually sophisti...
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 12:18 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 808
Views: 45043

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Theology class for Harbal! A sin is an act that •offends God•. More specifically: Here “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant , overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I ...
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 11:39 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 808
Views: 45043

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 11:05 am Don’t believe him Gary. Don’t!

Did you ever see Millers Crossing (Cohn brothers)?

“Listen to your heart!” 🤣
No. I never saw millers crossing. When did they cross and did they make it OK?
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 12:16 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 808
Views: 45043

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Could you present me with the passages that support that? I would like to see. 1 Corinthians 15:35-44 Most are familiar with that bit of scripture. In no sense does it support the notion of a return to a physical body in this world. Precisely the opposite. I don't see where 1 Corinthians says the &...
by Gary Childress
Tue May 07, 2024 12:05 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9911
Views: 907024

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Unlike some here, I do not argue there is no God. How on Earth could I possibly know that? If you grew up in a household that didn't have particularly religious beliefs and grew up watching Carl Sagan on Cosmos, you might think differently. I mean, I'm agnostic. But I didn't start out that way. I m...
by Gary Childress
Mon May 06, 2024 11:22 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9911
Views: 907024

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Not if your own One True Path to Enlightenment revolves around dialectical materialism. And the thing about "political economy" is that Marx and Engels insisted that their own historical assessment was...scientific? They went all the way back to nomadic, slash and burn, hunter and gathere...
by Gary Childress
Mon May 06, 2024 10:28 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 808
Views: 45043

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

The original expectation was that the righteous people would return to the world in a physical form. The eternal life would be here. Some sort of eternal life in"heaven" was a later addition/change. Could you present me with the passages that support that? I would like to see. Bart Erhman...
by Gary Childress
Mon May 06, 2024 10:15 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9975
Views: 1102658

Re: What could make morality objective?

Going back to the original question of what could make morality "objective", it seems to me that it would require a level of agreement and/or evidence of it being so that would make it virtually impossible for anyone to disagree. 2+2 = 4 is probably by reasonable accounts "objectively...
by Gary Childress
Mon May 06, 2024 9:54 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 808
Views: 45043

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

OK. Sorry. Should I call you an "ignoramus" too? I mean, just as a joke. You won't take it badly, will you? I have an idea: call me, refer to me, exactly and precisely how you think I am. Neither less nor more. Why on Earth should I take •badly• what you truly think of me (or anyone)? I r...
by Gary Childress
Mon May 06, 2024 8:54 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9911
Views: 907024

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Maybe the same way I would deal with them. I would try to put as much distance between me and them as possible and if someone told me that they had murdered someone and/or had sex with an underage child, I would have to report it out of concern for public safety. Why report it if it's just an expre...
by Gary Childress
Mon May 06, 2024 8:35 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9911
Views: 907024

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Why do I need to take that up with Harbal? He says morality is important to him. If he thinks morality is "opinion" then at least he seems to respect some opinions of others to whatever degree. I don't think you and IC are giving Harbal fair credit by trying to tell him that he can't be m...
by Gary Childress
Mon May 06, 2024 8:13 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 808
Views: 45043

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:09 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:35 pm Your hubris is extraordinary. But that's between you and God, I suppose.
God must have a better sense of humor than you!

(If not my goose is cooked!)
OK. Sorry. Should I call you an "ignoramus" too? I mean, just as a joke. You won't take it badly, will you?