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lancek4, I've been consistent throughout truth is absolute. truth is merely the state of actual existence. And none of what I've said has had anything to do with uncovering truth humans know little, if any, truth. are you not little, if any, human? I don't understand this. are you not uncovering tr...

...Now may your discussion come to a robust conclusion with Spheres and Barbara if she still wants to (understandable if she doesn't). Hey Ron, Actually she hasn't really been involved. But your statement "understandable if she doesn't" seems to be out of character. What exactly did you m...

....To speak truth would take forever and thus would negate a speedy trial... ...No one speaks truth, just a infinitesimally brief approximation steeped in infinite assumption and ambiguity!!!!!!!!!... ...TRUTH is ABSOLUTE!! HUMANS do not deal in TRUTH, they deal in BELIEF and spout it as truth! Wh...

Actually All I was trying to demonstrate with this passage was that with regard to truth, humans have merely conceived it's prior existence and with regard to lies/falsehoods humans conceived it's birth. Simply that, nothing more. You see my and Chaz's argument has always been about truths origin. ...

Here you go. This should be simple for everyone to understand. I had noticed it previously and had meant to mention it because it answers the question of absolute or relative truth once and for all. But sometimes with age comes distraction such that my original train of thought continued as I caught...

lancek4, I've been consistent throughout, Basically my position is that truth is absolute. it existed since the beginning of time, as truth is merely the state of actual existence. Humans created untruths in the face of truth initially because of fear. Of course today there are a plethora of reasons...

Barbara Brooks wrote:Lance, what a stupid uneducated remark more talk on the fence of gibberish

Schadenfreude!

Ill begin here: ...So instead of accepting the truth, humans created an opposite of truth called a lie, so they could deny their fears of the truth, something they could hide behind... Wow! The implication here is what you have been saying: that truth exists (-ed) before or 'basically' to humans. t...

Aw man - it didn't post my response S0B. Well here's a new one: What you say about 'man creating a lie'. I could easily say of your idea. (My unposted post I will do again later). lancek4, hey whats up? Look, anyone can say anything they want about anything. just because you say something doesn't m...

...So instead of accepting the truth, humans created an opposite of truth called a lie, so they could deny their fears of the truth, something they could hide behind... Wow! Honestly Ron, Are you being a bit sarcastic? Know that I'll be the last to say I know, it would just seem to be so. I think i...

Ron de Weijze wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote:...So instead of accepting the truth, humans created an opposite of truth called a lie, so they could deny their fears of the truth, something they could hide behind...

Wow!

Honestly Ron, Are you being a bit sarcastic?

Know that I'll be the last to say I know, it would just seem to be so.

The great and wonderdful frustrating thing of many PN threaders, is that you will never get most(if any- esp Chaz). Into a corner good enough that they will admit the contradiction that is inherent in their arguments. Strange. It begs the question of why we are on this forum. ? But I will address a...

Of course it is true that our planet existed before us. But it was not "true" until we were able to conceive of it. To which definition are you referring? ! A state of being??? Obviously, definitions: 1. the true or actual state of a matter, 2. conformity with fact or reality and 5. actua...

Of course it is true that our planet existed before us. But it was not "true" until we were able to conceive of it. To which definition are you referring? con•ceive [kuh n-seev] verb, -ceived, -ceiv•ing. 1. to form (a notion, opinion, purpose, etc.): He conceived the project while he was ...

Of course it is true that our planet existed before us. But it was not "true" until we were able to conceive of it. To which definition are you referring? con•ceive [kuh n-seev] verb, -ceived, -ceiv•ing. 1. to form (a notion, opinion, purpose, etc.): He conceived the project while he was ...