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by attofishpi
Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:43 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 72
Views: 3452

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

The windows to the world for AI is through it's sensory systems of the keyboard and mouse. AI responds to keyboard and mouse input like you respond to visual and auditory input. NO IT DOESN'T - put your hand into a fire and put a keyboard into a fire (or since u r so wrong, a robot hand) - do you t...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:33 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 72
Views: 3452

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

Some random guy who programmed it to learn on its own. So a guy programmed a machine of masses of switches to build a database of knowledge and this machine is going to go from that to killing a human!? Maybe the information in the database is all about how humans are evil planet-destroying apes? :...
by attofishpi
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:51 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 72
Views: 3452

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

Only sentient beings can have a will. For an AI to want to kill humans for example, it must be guided to via the will of a sentient being (a human). Sentience: If i am hungry, my will is to eat. If I look at the garden and see that the grass is long, my will is to get the lawnmower out. The windows...
by attofishpi
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 72
Views: 3452

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

Random activity could make an AI kill humans without ever wanting to or ever having a will installed by humans. Who gave the AI a 'random activity'? Some random guy who programmed it to learn on its own. So a guy programmed a machine of masses of switches to build a database of knowledge and this m...
by attofishpi
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:05 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 343
Views: 6448

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

1) I was Christian as a child, and quite a serious little believer.. So Y don't you believe in Christ NE more? And don't worry, none of what you do in relation to other people could possibly be connected to why you're a modern, up in your head about Christianity. I mean, it's not like on some very ...
by attofishpi
Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:58 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 343
Views: 6448

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

What are these "Catholic fundamentals" - could you provide a list? Here I expected that. As a Catholic - being born into it, neither via school nor my occasional visits to Mass were there any fundamentals of Catholic faith 'preached'. It just was about what being a Christian entails. Why ...
by attofishpi
Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:36 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 343
Views: 6448

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

I should mention that my present review of Catholic fundamentals has come to the fore because of my encounters with so many atheist types who write on this form. And I should also mention IC who had been a powerful negative influence that severely affected my appreciation of Christianity. I had to ...
by attofishpi
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:01 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 72
Views: 3452

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

What does it mean to have a will or purpose? Do you have a will or purpose? What is your ultimate purpose? Does your pet have a will or purpose? What about spiders and crabs, or jellyfish? What does it mean to be sentient? I think philosophers often throw these terms around without fully understand...
by attofishpi
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:42 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 72
Views: 3452

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

Sure, some of programming involves exploring what is possible, but the ultimate goal of any programmer is to solve a problem, or to automate some trivial or tedious job. I think the goal of AI programmers is to solve all problems and do all jobs. Yes, but… The AI per se would have no ultimate goal ...
by attofishpi
Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:08 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 72
Views: 3452

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

Sure, some of programming involves exploring what is possible, but the ultimate goal of any programmer is to solve a problem, or to automate some trivial or tedious job. I think the goal of AI programmers is to solve all problems and do all jobs. Yes, but… The AI per se would have no ultimate goal ...
by attofishpi
Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:48 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Got any good jokes?
Replies: 779
Views: 143872

Re: Got any good jokes?

Where do polar bears go to vote?

The North Poll.
by attofishpi
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:23 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: the quest for timeless truths....
Replies: 25
Views: 1063

Re: the quest for timeless truths....

- Eternal truth means to be ever-present. As Sri Ramana Maharshi said to Sri H.L. Poonja, of what use is a God that comes and goes? ..and one might say back to Poonja, since when should God be required to be always utiltarian? Since when should God be required to always be useless? Nobody is saying...
by attofishpi
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:21 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Got any good jokes?
Replies: 779
Views: 143872

Re: Got any good jokes?

FFS. Yeah. you are fucking clueless about humour. No. Only when it suits you does telling all black people within a ""joke"" that all they have is nightmares ..seem humourous. How about "hy did the chicken cross the road". What would you do with that. Or a horse walks ...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:44 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 343
Views: 6448

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

I don't actually want anything; it's the person who is asking me to believe something completely implausible that wants something. It's not my job to do anything, it's theirs. What is implausible? How does a bunch of atoms when arranged in a certain way permit the unique sensation within the entire...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:24 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 343
Views: 6448

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

No cumulative evidence is needed; just one instance would be adequate. The day I put a glass of water onto the table and it spontaneously becomes wine, is the day I will start to believe it. 🍷 🤔 ..and therein lies the catch 22 of it. U want the proof without what was asked of you, some faith. I don...