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by attofishpi
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 255
Views: 1950

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

Both God and Universe are causes. The distinction between caused and uncaused causes is entirely yours. And unsubstantiated. It's logically inescapable, actually. But I see we're just disagreeing about that. Well Mr Can, you haven't demonstrated that it is "logically inescapable" that there was a '...
by attofishpi
Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 255
Views: 1950

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

That's the problem with MAN. We cannot understand there is NO first cause. Causality requires a state of conditions where logic exists. Well, if that's so, how do you know there is a "problem"? You say there is no recourse to logic in this question: but if so, you could not even discover the questi...
by attofishpi
Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 255
Views: 1950

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

Mate, all you are doing is chasing your own tail/tale. entropy leads to chaos, intelligence forms from chaos, intelligence forms reality/man, entropy leads to chaos,intelligence forms from chaos, intelligence forms reality/man, entropy leads to chaos,intelligence forms from chaos, intelligence form...
by attofishpi
Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 255
Views: 1950

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

So why do you think God does not need a cause? Well, what is not a matter of opinion, not a mere "I think," is this: in any credible or scientific explanation of the existence of the universe, we need to include a First Cause of some kind. This is not because any particular belief or "I think" says...
by attofishpi
Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:29 pm
Forum: Aesthetics
Topic: Why do people watch porn?
Replies: 43
Views: 4426

Re: Why do people watch porn?

Above us only sky wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:12 am
Why do people watch porn?
To ejaculate their own inner core.
by attofishpi
Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Is space ever empty?
Replies: 10
Views: 326

Re: Is space ever empty?

Is space ever empty?
I have discovered it is, there is a part of the universe where, after water was poured over it, it's inner core became zero, nothing.

All it left behind was this image:- Image
by attofishpi
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: Aesthetics
Topic: Music
Replies: 3329
Views: 365869

Re: Music

It should be a rule of this thread that at the minimum - The title of the song and the group/band/DJ/set/composer/etc.. are mentioned prior to the utube/woteva link. ..and if you want to be super nice to the likes of the atto ilk - post the lyrics. I refuse to click on bare links. :evil: Echo & The ...
by attofishpi
Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:37 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 255
Views: 1950

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

Immanuel Can wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:51 am
Logik wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:20 pm
The same thing happens when you make the claim that "God is an uncaused cause". The universe is a caused cause.
The universe is indeed a caused cause. But that's why it cannot be the answer to its own origin. It requires a cause.
So why do you think God does not need a cause?
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 255
Views: 1950

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

No, God by your account IS the first cause, therefore define it. The uncaused cause. The prerequisite to everything. The eternal. 1. The uncaused cause:- An incomprehensible statement. 2. The prerequisite to everything:- Something that was required to cause all else. 3. The eternal:- An attribute o...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 255
Views: 1950

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

Stop being absurd. The first thing to do is define the thing one it talking about, and that means describing its attributes. Then the only attribute we're debating at the moment is "First Cause." We'll talk about the rest later, when they come up naturally. No, God by your account IS the first caus...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 255
Views: 1950

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

It is pertinent for us BOTH to discuss our understanding of what we perceive as the attributes of God. Please, explain the attributes of God the 'Him' that in your comprehension was the 'first cause' in the creation of our Universe. Right now, I'm not contending for any particular attributes. Any q...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:11 pm
Forum: Aesthetics
Topic: Poetry here.
Replies: 1069
Views: 152842

Re: Poetry here.

Good poem Gazza! Was that one of yours? ...the only bit I didn't like was the conversion from hand - singular - to hands - plural. Thank you and good catch. I changed it to singular. Thanks for catching it. Yes it is mine. I wrote it recently in a writing workshop at a local library. The writing pr...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: Aesthetics
Topic: Poetry here.
Replies: 1069
Views: 152842

Re: Poetry here.

Good poem Gazza! Was that one of yours? ...the only bit I didn't like was the conversion from hand - singular - to hands - plural.
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:39 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 1968 PROPHECY OF 90-YEAR OLD NORWEGIAN WOMAN
Replies: 74
Views: 534

Re: 1968 PROPHECY OF 90-YEAR OLD NORWEGIAN WOMAN

HexHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:08 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:16 am
1.30. The rest doesn't surprise me. The biggest morons (with the biggest heads) you will ever find are in 'admin' jobs.
Now what have you done in your life other than sound smart and act stupid?
Hex! Stop with your cozy chat, hypocrite... :mrgreen: